Rumoured and Confirmed signings - Part 4

[Dave's mate]

You have the 4 elite ones in Turbo,Rts,Ponga and Teddy.

Gutherson is maybe next or perhaps Holmes now he is back.

After that it does drop a little. Clockstead perhaps? I reckon from 7-16 it comes down to form that season.
Papenhauzen has the nost potential but is small. Let's see how goes after teams ragdolll him a little.

Haha Gutho is a handy first grader and nothing more. The media wank over him is baffling

 

[Dave's mate]

Silly silly boy. Maybe a season or two in England and he can come back and fulfil his potential.

England won't let him in

 

[franklin2323]

Haha Gutho is a handy first grader and nothing more. The media wank over him is baffling

was 18th man in Origin. Says more about the standard of FB really

 

[Dave's mate]

was 18th man in Origin. Says more about the standard of FB really

"King Gutho"!!!!! King of f**king what? Mediocrity?

 

[hindy111]

Haha Gutho is a handy first grader and nothing more. The media wank over him is baffling

And why he was paid 650K and not over 1mill like the others.
His defense is average.He is safe under high ball.
But he is the best ball playing fullback in comp. His LBAS and TAs would back that.Where he finished first for fullbacks in these areas. Ponga could be that but not yet.
Great support player and brings enthusiasm to team.
Not fast enough or powerfull enough to be elite.
I'd only trade him for the 4 I mentioned

 

[hindy111]

Moylan plays soft. I don't mind Edwards..Runs hard and young. Just looked a little lost in attack at times. He will benefit if the team straighten their attack instead of going sideways.

 

[hindy111]

was 18th man in Origin. Says more about the standard of FB really

You don't think he is worth 600-650k?
I reckon it's a fair price. The elite guys are on over a mill. Ponga will get 1.2+ when signs new contract.

 

[MugaB]

Here we go, another parra player being ranked, thanks for visiting the panthers forum to discuss parra players,
Hoffman played for wenty for a reason.
And gutho is average, but the best option for parra, just like edwards is penriths best option

 

[franklin2323]

"King Gutho"!!!!! King of f**king what? Mediocrity?

Depends if Mybe plays FB then he will be the king of that but if not then yep he gets the crown. There is 4 elite FB. 2 or 3 developing and the rest are mediocre. It is his crown so far

 

[martielang]

I’d go the 4 you had as elite. Have to go Cutherson due to Origin 18th man. Holmes in that group. Brimson. Moylan then the rest.

Rate the 5/8th and Luai/Burton is equally as low.

Those who say we need a centre aren’t wrong but just other priorities 1st

Brimson? Plenty of potential but he’s done diddly squat in first grade.

Moylan? In 2016, sure.

Holmes? Quality winger.

Edwards was easily the equal of any mentioned the back half of last year. Actually he was well superior to those 3.

 

[franklin2323]

Brimson? Plenty of potential but he’s done diddly squat in first grade.

Moylan? In 2016, sure.

Holmes? Quality winger.

Edwards was easily the equal of any mentioned the back half of last year. Actually he was well superior to those 3.

no speed. Can’t ball play.. In what way is he superior?

 

[hindy111]

Depends if Mybe plays FB then he will be the king of that but if not then yep he gets the crown. There is 4 elite FB. 2 or 3 developing and the rest are mediocre. It is his crown so far

Agree. But he costs less then Mbye and about the same as DWZ who I rate close. It's the ball playing and also kicking game that separates The King.
Plus the energy he brings. But yeah he gets hyped up cause of his personality.
The dogs season changed when DWZ come along. But he can't ball play at all.

 

[hindy111]

Depends if Mybe plays FB then he will be the king of that but if not then yep he gets the crown. There is 4 elite FB. 2 or 3 developing and the rest are mediocre. It is his crown so far

Where do you rate Ponga? I see flashes but he plays also soft like Moylan.

 

[OldPanther]

And why he was paid 650K and not over 1mill like the others.
His defense is average.He is safe under high ball.
But he is the best ball playing fullback in comp. His LBAS and TAs would back that.Where he finished first for fullbacks in these areas. Ponga could be that but not yet.
Great support player and brings enthusiasm to team.
Not fast enough or powerfull enough to be elite.
I'd only trade him for the 4 I mentioned

Here we go, another parra player being ranked, thanks for visiting the panthers forum to discuss parra players,
Hoffman played for wenty for a reason.
And gutho is average, but the best option for parra, just like edwards is penriths best option

Weird part is Gutho has good ball playing stats. I never would've picked it. He looks so average.

Line break assists:



Try assists:

 

[BossleyPanther]

nahh, I think we are done.

I expect that May will be shown the door and Burton will take his spot in the 30.

There's only 29 spots filled

 

[OldPanther]

There's only 29 spots filled

I think it was @Blade23 That said they would just promote a junior into that spot.

 

[age.s]

no speed. Can’t ball play.. In what way is he superior?

At his best he's very good defensively which is something fullbacks don't get rated on enough. Great at cleaning up kicks/grubbers. Defensive positioning is good. Reacts quickly to the play. Very safe under the high ball. Makes big effort plays. A try saved is a try scored.

He's not slow either. He's no JAC or Roberts but he's quick enough and tough to tackle. Made plenty of half breaks in the second half of the year and was about the only player we ever had supporting full breaks.

None of this puts him in the elite class of FB, but he's not a dud like some here seem to claim and he's still a kid. I don't think we swap him out for someone who isn't in the Tedesco/Ponga category.

 

[mxlegend99]

And why he was paid 650K and not over 1mill like the others.
His defense is average.He is safe under high ball.
But he is the best ball playing fullback in comp. His LBAS and TAs would back that.Where he finished first for fullbacks in these areas. Ponga could be that but not yet.
Great support player and brings enthusiasm to team.
Not fast enough or powerfull enough to be elite.
I'd only trade him for the 4 I mentioned

Not if you average them over games played:

Try Assists:

Moylan - Average 0.7
Turbo - Average 0.7
Tedesco - Average 0.5
Widdop - Average 0.5
Ponga - Average 0.5

4 guys equal or ahead.

Linebreak Assists:
Moylan - Average 1.1 (highest of everyone)
Turbo - 0.6
Gutho - 0.6

Gutho is solid and has a bit of everything. Better all rounder than most. But best ball playing fullback isn't right. He's in the top 5. But even a shitty out of form Moylan wins that easily. Its the other areas of fullback he is poor in.

 

[betcats]

Moylan could lose both arms and still be a better ball player than Gutho

 

[hindy111]

Not if you average them over games played:

Try Assists:

Moylan - Average 0.7
Turbo - Average 0.7
Tedesco - Average 0.5
Widdop - Average 0.5
Ponga - Average 0.5

4 guys equal or ahead.

Linebreak Assists:
Moylan - Average 1.1 (highest of everyone)
Turbo - 0.6
Gutho - 0.6

Gutho is solid and has a bit of everything. Better all rounder than most. But best ball playing fullback isn't right. He's in the top 5. But even a shitty out of form Moylan wins that easily. Its the other areas of fullback he is poor in.

That's cause Moylan plays like a 5/8 and so does Widdop atleast in attack structures atleast. Neither are fullbacks.Moylan in 6/11 games ran for less then 100mtrs this season. Edward's 15 x ran for more then 140mtrs and 6 x over 200mtrs.
My point is it's also relative to cost.
Ponga will cost over 1 mill. Is his output worth it? Teddy and RTS sure are. Turbo yes when fit but always injured.
Edward's would cost maybe 250k - 300k. Good value if ask me. And worth it. Guys like him are fine.
Guys like Nathan on 1 mill need to step up. I reckon next year he will go up a gear tbh. Maloney was stagnating the side and going sideways.