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Rumoured & Confirmed Signings - Part 5

Crashtest

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We wouldn't have this issue if Falls or Salmon played instead of May during Origin
Salmon is a below average five eight in NSW cup, so there is no way you start him at 7 in an NRL game.

And if we had played Falls, the payments to him being outside the top 30 would of meant we wouldnt have had the $120k cap space left to sign TPJ.

Without TPJ we don’t get past the Eels, and so don’t win the premiership.

So playing May in the halves didn’t work out too badly all things considered
 

Fangs

First Grade
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If Nathan Cleary is anything to go by then Luai and Burton both have a couple more seasons in the halves before we see their true worth.

Sad to see Burton leave but I see a lot more in a Cleary/Luai combo. Burton in time will be a star half and I think his way back to Penrith is through Cleary's position, not Luai's.
 

Iamback

Juniors
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Salmon is a below average five eight in NSW cup, so there is no way you start him at 7 in an NRL game.

And if we had played Falls, the payments to him being outside the top 30 would of meant we wouldnt have had the $120k cap space left to sign TPJ.

Without TPJ we don’t get past the Eels, and so don’t win the premiership.

So playing May in the halves didn’t work out too badly all things considered

NSW Cup was undefeated their halves should be next up if NRL halves can't play. Falls was Fulltime or could go to QLD
 

Iamback

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No, it buys time for players like Kurt Falls to get some footy under his belt.
Luai and May in the halves for the first month or so won’t kill us.

Regardless of whether we keep May or not no guarantee he plays either. He has to do those extra Education sessions to go with the fine.

Regardless May should cover Yeo's role over origin. So we need another half anyway.

3 mentioned in this thread would all do a decent job with the rest of the side while filling in
 

Original Name

Juniors
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Hes had good games at 7 before for us. Scored 3 great tries against the warriors 3 years ago i think it as and was halfback that night.

He is best when he plays his own style but ivan didnt want to change the team structure for luai in 7. In he wanted luai just to stick to the structure which didnt suit him.
It was also in the days before we play with our current halfback controls the middle and the FB/five eight sit on the edges structure. It's different play halfback with it versus without it. I'd say we should just ditch it whenever Cleary isn't in the team because it's a style built for Cleary but Ivan's determined to keep it and has our reserve grade play like that.
Salmon is a below average five eight in NSW cup, so there is no way you start him at 7 in an NRL game.

And if we had played Falls, the payments to him being outside the top 30 would of meant we wouldnt have had the $120k cap space left to sign TPJ.

Without TPJ we don’t get past the Eels, and so don’t win the premiership.

So playing May in the halves didn’t work out too badly all things considered
You're allowed to play dev players after a certain point in the season like round 12.
 

chrisD

Coach
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If Burton kicked on he's going to be more in demand and cost more to keep than Luai because of his long kicking game, which with Cleary we don't need. If he reached his potential, which would be a season or 2 away, we'd lose him, can't pay 2 halves a million each.
 

Iamback

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If Burton kicked on he's going to be more in demand and cost more to keep than Luai because of his long kicking game, which with Cleary we don't need. If he reached his potential, which would be a season or 2 away, we'd lose him, can't pay 2 halves a million each.

Burton wouldn't be long kicking here that is Cleary's job. We have the right mix
 

Iamback

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It was also in the days before we play with our current halfback controls the middle and the FB/five eight sit on the edges structure. It's different play halfback with it versus without it. I'd say we should just ditch it whenever Cleary isn't in the team because it's a style built for Cleary but Ivan's determined to keep it and has our reserve grade play like that.

You're allowed to play dev players after a certain point in the season like round 12.

Don't need to ditch it. The structure works just need a like for like.

Take Round 1 should we need a new 7. Still have Api and Yeo for the 7 to play off. The forward pack will beat teams themselves and the left side of To'o, Crichton, Kikau and Luai will cause havoc.

Where we fell away well besides injuries to several players was trying to move too many guys around. If we had Burton as a like for like with Cleary and left Luai doing his thing. Much better. May was defensively strong but has no kicking game
 

ColdWetPanther

Juniors
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Luai is so much better than Burton. Can step off his left and and pass to the right.

Teams figured out over the course of the season to defend Burton inside out. He needs to develop that part of his game.

Luai played in a total of two losses this season; the kid is a winner; SOO and Premiership winning half.

Burton is also a winner; but he needs someone like Luai to pass him the ball.
 

Sime_11

Juniors
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Falls will likely play 7 during origin period in 2022 - May will play 7 at start of the year if Nathan isnt fit.

Falls knows this and should try and have his best ever pre-season to change the coaches mind.

Burton's kicking game and his speed is superior to Luai - 2022 will be a big reality check for Burton, whilst that Dogs team looks better on paper than recent years - they are all coming together for the first time against a team that has made back to back grand finals.

Burton wont have the time & space that he's had at Penrith, its going to show early on in the season for him
 

Smug Panther

Bench
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Falls will likely play 7 during origin period in 2022 - May will play 7 at start of the year if Nathan isnt fit.

Falls knows this and should try and have his best ever pre-season to change the coaches mind.

Burton's kicking game and his speed is superior to Luai - 2022 will be a big reality check for Burton, whilst that Dogs team looks better on paper than recent years - they are all coming together for the first time against a team that has made back to back grand finals.

Burton wont have the time & space that he's had at Penrith, its going to show early on in the season for him

They are going to get Brandon Smith for 2023 imo. Next year will be hard for Burto but he'll be right
 

BxTom

Juniors
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Falls will likely play 7 during origin period in 2022 - May will play 7 at start of the year if Nathan isnt fit.

Falls knows this and should try and have his best ever pre-season to change the coaches mind.

Burton's kicking game and his speed is superior to Luai - 2022 will be a big reality check for Burton, whilst that Dogs team looks better on paper than recent years - they are all coming together for the first time against a team that has made back to back grand finals.

Burton wont have the time & space that he's had at Penrith, its going to show early on in the season for him
The Dogs also have a crap coach. Interesting to see how long Barrett last at the Dogs...
 

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