Tigerm
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Sorry, I assumed you had some idea of how a footy club works? I see I was wrong.Over paying for players, and having Luke Brooks on the books? Yep, okay.
Sorry, I assumed you had some idea of how a footy club works? I see I was wrong.Over paying for players, and having Luke Brooks on the books? Yep, okay.
Yeah Api made all the difference to us once he joined back up with us. The past two years have easily been our best and we can thank Api for alot of that success! Wallace our last decent hooker and before that probably Kevin Kingston? Than Priddis? Segyaro could have been top tier but his off field stuff was messy.
To be honest and you'd never ever do it but IMO Nathan Cleary would be an amazing 9. Kid can tackle and pass plus kick, reminds me of Cameron Smith when he would slot into the halves! I think Cleary could slot in there and be super calm and really get the team going up field.
I think we should be investing cash into an older head hooker someone like the dragons 9 or Raiders 9.. I'd be trying to snag Ben Hunt and play him 9 if at cheap price. Can't win games with young kids in a key position with no big game experience.
Rubbish. Parramatta low balled him and paid the price (no pun intended).
I agree with this. I think Smith, Rheed and Cook (towards the end of the year) we’re better than him. I think some like Verrells and Brailey will overtake him next year (if they both get time at their clubs).
Hi definitely isn’t Api level, but I liked the improvement we saw in Kenny this year. Not as crafty as Api, but there was more running in his game after he had a few solid weeks in a row in the starting side.
I am bemused that you took offense at my comment. Cheers for that.Sorry, I assumed you had some idea of how a footy club works? I see I was wrong.
Simonsson is trash, why would we care?Josh Hodgson & Bailey Simonsson have signed with Parra for 2023. BS could be for 2022 but Hodgson def 2023.
Gower I'd say, but then they made a half out of him. Wallace at the back end of his career was good.While I’ll agree the need to buy established players from elsewhere is deceasing, when was the last time we successfully developed a decent number 9?
My bad, I didn’t realise I was making comments to the VI?I am bemused that you took offense at my comment. Cheers for that.
Whether you consider any of the current crop great is largely irrelevant as it only matters how good the rest of the current competition is. Perhaps the rule changes that have lead to a faster game make players prior to this change look better?I don't think there is any great hookers at the moment.
A few years back Smith,Hodgson and Cook where elite. Cook while still good is on the way down. I wouldn't talk about Rheed or Api on those guys level. There just in strong sides and there isn't to many good hookers currently.
Talking about improvement - Wade Egan imo looked like he could be the one who comes good.
Whether you consider any of the current crop great is largely irrelevant as it only matters how good the rest of the current competition is. Perhaps the rule changes that have lead to a faster game make players prior to this change look better?
Anyway I’d rate the current crop as follows:
Top tier: Grant, B Smith, Koroisau, Cook, Hunt
Next tier: Mahoney, J Brailey, Hodgson*
Next tier: Starling, Verrills, B Brailey, Robson
Anyone not listed isn’t worth pursuing IMO
*largely going off past form here and the effect of a change of scenery could have
If he decides to choose rugby league - has also represented Australia in cricket, and I think has already played for Penrith in Premier Cricket.
- Koroisau will be a huge loss, anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves
- Hooker is arguably the most important position besides half back in the modern game. We can’t just replace a top 5 player in that position with an unproven 18 year old prospect
- Someone made a good point earlier about our history of overhyping junior hookers, Romelo, Iosefa etc. With this in mind I’m hesitant to buy into the Ryley Smith hype
- Mitch Kenny seems like a nice guy and a serviceable player but you don’t win comps with guys of his calibre at #9. Our premiership hookers have been elite: Simmons, Priddis, Koroisau
- We have Koroisau for next season, we’d be mad to release him early given his current contract is one of the best in the league
- Brandon Smith for 2022 would be a mistake. The Storm would want a decent player going back their way, better to just hold onto Koroisau
- A lot of talk about us getting Verrills or Simpkin but keep in mind the Dolphins, Eels, Broncos, Titans, Warriors, Sea Eagles etc would all also be in the race. Both players are also a class or two (or three in Simpkin’s case) below Koroisau
TLDR: Koroisau is a huge loss who is not easily replaced either internally or via recruitment. He’s contracted for 2022 so let’s get the most out of him while he’s still here.
Yeah Api made all the difference to us once he joined back up with us. The past two years have easily been our best and we can thank Api for alot of that success! Wallace our last decent hooker and before that probably Kevin Kingston? Than Priddis? Segyaro could have been top tier but his off field stuff was messy.
To be honest and you'd never ever do it but IMO Nathan Cleary would be an amazing 9. Kid can tackle and pass plus kick, reminds me of Cameron Smith when he would slot into the halves! I think Cleary could slot in there and be super calm and really get the team going up field.
I think we should be investing cash into an older head hooker someone like the dragons 9 or Raiders 9.. I'd be trying to snag Ben Hunt and play him 9 if at cheap price. Can't win games with young kids in a key position with no big game experience.
How though? The Dogs are desperate and offering crazy money to buy players. They outbid the Eels to sign him, and if we had matched their $650k a season, they would of just offered more.We should’ve concentrated on sorting out the hooker position before second row. Reckon we would’ve snared Mahoney easily.
What bemuses me is this, people getting their knickers in a knot. None of us has foresight, so we may have adequate coverage, and we may not.Well summed up.
People have talked themselves into this being no big deal, but It’s really a massive problem. We might get lucky, but right now the planning for a continuation of our premiership hopes after 2022 looks poor. We should’ve concentrated on sorting out the hooker position before second row. Reckon we would’ve snared Mahoney easily.
Whether you consider any of the current crop great is largely irrelevant as it only matters how good the rest of the current competition is. Perhaps the rule changes that have lead to a faster game make players prior to this change look better?
Anyway I’d rate the current crop as follows:
Top tier: Grant, B Smith, Koroisau, Cook, Hunt
Next tier: Mahoney, J Brailey, Hodgson*
Next tier: Starling, Verrills, B Brailey, Robson
Anyone not listed isn’t worth pursuing IMO
*largely going off past form here and the effect of a change of scenery could have
How though? The Dogs are desperate and offering crazy money to buy players. They outbid the Eels to sign him, and if we had matched their $650k a season, they would of just offered more.
Gould doesn’t worry about the salary cap, because he thinks he can just shaft contracted players later and move them on.