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PhilGould

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Not writing him off, in the original post I said for all I know he's a great coach. My issue is he's another inexperienced coach joining a group of first time coaches in Kostjasyn, Green & Smith, in a system that's clearly not getting the most out of it's players.

Dave Furner in AOB's first year is the only assistant he's had with any sort of experience as a head coach and success as an assistant elsewhere, and then he was gone after a year because they didn't get along apparently.
 

PhilGould

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Fair but originally was brought in as a part time consultant like Joey before becoming a full time assistant mid-season, and like Furner he was out the door after 1 season.
 
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Having blokes not long retired in Ass. Coaching roles is a positive imo. The game has changed and needs coaches who have kept up with the modern tactics and conditions. What was successful 10 years ago is unlikely to work now, from a tactical perspective

I think that's why guys like Flanno and Green are getting overlooked now
 

PhilGould

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Don't necessarily disagree from a tactical standpoint, though good coaches will evolve regardless. Having people on staff with actual experience running a team could be helpful for someone who went from never having been a head coach at any level to running an NRL team, though.
 

TooheysNew

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Having blokes not long retired in Ass. Coaching roles is a positive imo. The game has changed and needs coaches who have kept up with the modern tactics and conditions. What was successful 10 years ago is unlikely to work now, from a tactical perspective

I think that's why guys like Flanno and Green are getting overlooked now
What was successful for Flanno got him banned from the game. He barely watches it these days by the sounds of his commentary.
 

Sir Galahad

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Having blokes not long retired in Ass. Coaching roles is a positive imo. The game has changed and needs coaches who have kept up with the modern tactics and conditions. What was successful 10 years ago is unlikely to work now, from a tactical perspective

I think that's why guys like Flanno and Green are getting overlooked now
studies show that the older leaders/coaches are the more responsive they are to change and indeed lead the way in regard to innovation openess to change. Younger coaches have a tendency to stick with what was successful in the past ( perhaps during their playing days) and less open to change.
 

TooheysNew

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studies show that the older leaders/coaches are the more responsive they are to change and indeed lead the way in regard to innovation openess to change. Younger coaches have a tendency to stick with what was successful in the past ( perhaps during their playing days) and less open to change.
Source on these studies?
 

Sir Galahad

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Made it up like last time. Got it.
First hits from a search, information is certainly out there if you care to take the time.

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/31/jobs/why-innovators-get-better-with-age.html

"But according to research by Benjamin Jones of Northwestern University, a 55-year-old and even a 65-year-old have significantly more innovation potential than a 25-year-old."

https://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/faculty/jones-ben/htm/AgeAndGreatInvention.pdf

https://www.quivermanagement.com/2017/11/22/age-does-matter-in-coaching/

"The study revealed that older executives were more open to the concept of development and the opportunity to learn. They also welcomed being challenged."

"The report noted that regardless of gender, executives in their thirties had lower ratings on self-reflection, and their level of change was less dramatic than that of executives in their forties and fifties."

https://qz.com/work/1614701/the-best-age-to-lead-is-probably-in-your-50s/

https://academic.oup.com/psychsocgerontology/article/62/1/P61/572509?login=false

"older adults are equally likely, if not more likely, than young adults to choose proactive strategies to directly confront instrumental problems."
 
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studies show that the older leaders/coaches are the more responsive they are to change and indeed lead the way in regard to innovation openess to change. Younger coaches have a tendency to stick with what was successful in the past ( perhaps during their playing days) and less open to change.
When it comes to a head coach, maybe. However a lot of High level executives se the value of young go getters under them who are dynamic and open to.modern thinking

Look at Payton and his team. Young guys like Dean Young have thrived and added to their turn around. Younger more modern assistants is also a hallmark of Bellamy's process too
 
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TooheysNew

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First hits from a search, information is certainly out there if you care to take the time.

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/31/jobs/why-innovators-get-better-with-age.html

"But according to research by Benjamin Jones of Northwestern University, a 55-year-old and even a 65-year-old have significantly more innovation potential than a 25-year-old."

https://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/faculty/jones-ben/htm/AgeAndGreatInvention.pdf

https://www.quivermanagement.com/2017/11/22/age-does-matter-in-coaching/

"The study revealed that older executives were more open to the concept of development and the opportunity to learn. They also welcomed being challenged."

"The report noted that regardless of gender, executives in their thirties had lower ratings on self-reflection, and their level of change was less dramatic than that of executives in their forties and fifties."

https://qz.com/work/1614701/the-best-age-to-lead-is-probably-in-your-50s/

https://academic.oup.com/psychsocgerontology/article/62/1/P61/572509?login=false

"older adults are equally likely, if not more likely, than young adults to choose proactive strategies to directly confront instrumental problems."
Lot of extrapolation in that again.
 

Sir Galahad

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When it comes to a head coach, maybe. However a lot of High level executives se the value of young go getters under them who are dynamic and open to.modern thinking

Look at Payton and his team. Young guys like Dean Young have thrived and added to their turn around. Younger more modern assistants is also a hallmark of Bellamy's process too
correct, it is the older ones who encourage and foster a culture and environment of innovation. It comes with experience, that can only come with time. .....unfortunately for all of us.
 

Sir Galahad

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Does that translate to sports though?
If you start to follow Storm more closely Bellamy has added quite a number of military techniques to his coaching style - they work, as they have for millennium.

A popular book among leaders and executives is Zen and the Art of War - leadership structures follow similar paths in many aspects of endeavor, war, business, sport.....some are more fun than others and pay better.
 

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