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I get what your saying about the cap, but you just don't hand out $500k contracts to spend your cap. If you need to spend your cap, front load some of your big players and have more to spend the following season. There is no way Kitone is on $500k, Tuilagi and Kitone would be on about $500-$600k combined
A lot of merkins seem stuck in the paradigm when $500k was the price of an elite player. But the salary cap has doubled in ten years, and tripled since 2008.
Yeah maybe not Kautoga, but Tuilagi would be for sure. I reckon $900k combined. Both regularly play 80 minutes.
I was going to suggest Kautoga may be one of the ones frontloaded, but that runs the risk of the Dylan Brown Falsity (IMO) where you get stuck always paying the player in advance of what they are worth.
They are not on $800k jointly, a reasonable amount less than that, hrt but what do I know compared the Pou and his estimations .
This is the only reason frontloading would work. It can't mean overpaying the player for an entire contract, because next time he's off contract it's irrelevant. His demands will be based on rival offers (even if they are 'informal'). Clubs need to maximise value within the duration of the contract.
That's a good point. Hanging around junior footy tells you nothing about this stuff. You would just hear more shit rumours.
Keep saying crap as usual, I have nothing to do with junior footy other than watching occasionally. You are a deluded fool who tries to demean other posters with your posts stating you are obviously correct as you do the math or whatever. Just for once , you are wrong, nothing more to add.
I absolutely think it’s at risk of players misunderstanding how much a club values them. To ignore its relevance runs the risk of tHe ClUb LoWbALlEd Me!
Would you consider Kautoga a trusted player then?
And Chris Sandow.
I am never obviously correct. I make assessments. We can never know whether they were correct. The fact you can't understand that points to why plenty of merkins here don't like the way I post.
Volunteering with kids' sport is God's work. I used to do it myself and I still admire it greatly. But there are people who do it for the wrong reasons and they tend to overinflate their importance and how connected they are. Be careful trusting these people. You should trust me instead.
The player only needs to think the club values them more than any rivals. But I don't think any club will have success if it needs to be the highest bidder to keep its own players.
In the end, a player either understands the way the salary cap motivates clubs or he doesn't. And rival clubs are also motivated the same way. If Crichton or Luai want to go somewhere more desperate, that's their business.
Probably not yet but you never know. He went from a nobody to an NRL player in half a season. There was probably some euphoria and he might think it's all about Ryles and the club. There could be a few bromances involved.
Good point
We’re in court dealing currently with the intelligence levels of players. I can definitely foresee a player asking why they only getting $400k (of a 3 year $1.2m deal) when last contract they got $500k (of a 3 year $1.1m deal). Not all players but it only takes one disgruntled player to muddy everything.
My point is more around educating the player around the circumstances.
Good if true.
See @Delboy it is possible
Poustimations.
Surely this is part of negotiations, but they have managers to advise them on what is and isn't a good deal. If they won't listen to good advice (or just reason), do we even want them? Plenty of players would be more trouble than they’re worth.
Tuilagi played 80 mins regulary? maybe in Dog years.
This was before he re-signed. They're not going to take money off him just because we have better forward depth now.
