Rumours and Stuff

[El Diablo]

the Roosters entire squad would cost double if they played at most other clubs

there's probably not a player there on less than $500k

even their ball boys are on $100k

 

[Noise]

So what would you say is a better approach to winning premierships? ... a top heavy roster and running the risk of a couple of injuries bringing your season undone ... OR ... a deep roster without real star power?

Im expecting you to backup your answer with some solid stats

I reckon top heavy with about 4 stars (origin quality or equivalent) and run the risk with injury.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So what would you say is a better approach to winning premierships? ... a top heavy roster and running the risk of a couple of injuries bringing your season undone ... OR ... a deep roster without real star power?

Im expecting you to backup your answer with some solid stats

I think with 20+ legit first graders you’ll make the finals pretty handily. With only a dozen you're f**ked if injuries hit - look at the Chooks last year.

With 17 first graders in the team every week you probably won’t be embarrassed in the finals either. But to win it you obviously need some (attacking) stars.

With a good enough kicking game and hard working defenders you can keep the pressure off your nuffies though, if they’re forced to play. I reckon three of the Storm’s outside backs would look garbage if they’d played for Newcastle this year. I also think their forwards are overrated in attack (but great in defence) - the Storm find it easy to get the ball where the defence is weakest, including in the middle.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I'm about to take my family out for chitlins and pig's feet, but while I'm gone, if any merkin can be bothered, make a list of all the nuffies who've won grand finals in the past ten years.

Obviously the definition of nuffy will vary, especially because they look better in strong teams. Keep in mind that Kirisome Auva'a and Slade Griffin are NRL premiership winners.

 

[strider]

I will start ...

Cameron Smith

My definition is quite broad

 

[hineyrulz]

Mitchell Pearce.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

To be fair, they were both good enough to get picked in Origin.

 

[The EELiminator]

To be fair, they were both good enough to get picked in Origin.

yes but pearce was picked for nsw that bar is set a fair bit lower than the qld one

 

[Poupou Escobar]

That is true.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Mitchell Pearce.

*Shitchell

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I thought it was Mythchell.

 

[Eelementary]

I'm about to take my family out for chitlins and pig's feet, but while I'm gone, if any merkin can be bothered, make a list of all the nuffies who've won grand finals in the past ten years.

Obviously the definition of nuffy will vary, especially because they look better in strong teams. Keep in mind that Kirisome Auva'a and Slade Griffin are NRL premiership winners.

Imo (I'm using the definition of "nuffy" as someone who was a very ordinary and/or average player, regardless of ant Origin or Test caps accrued):

Steve Turner
Anthony Quinn
Brett Finch
Brett White
Michael Robertson
Jason King
Mark Bryant
Jarrod Saffy
Ben Hornby
Vic Mauro
Shane Rodney
Bryan Norrie
Todd Lowrie
Jaiman Lowe
David Tyrell
Jason Clark
Kyle Turner
Kyle Feldt
Rory Kostjasyn
Chad Townsend
Matt Prior
Jason Bukuya
Sam Tagatese
Curtis Scott
Slade Griffin
Tim Glasby
Dale Finucane

These players are not bad players imo - just very ordinary.

 

[El Diablo]

or Bitchell

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Or Mitchell Piss

 

[84 Baby]

Imo (I'm using the definition of "nuffy" as someone who was a very ordinary and/or average player, regardless of ant Origin or Test caps accrued):

Steve Turner
Anthony Quinn
Brett Finch
Brett White
Michael Robertson
Jason King
Mark Bryant
Jarrod Saffy
Ben Hornby
Vic Mauro
Shane Rodney
Bryan Norrie
Todd Lowrie
Jaiman Lowe
David Tyrell
Jason Clark
Kyle Turner
Kyle Feldt
Rory Kostjasyn
Chad Townsend
Matt Prior
Jason Bukuya
Sam Tagatese
Curtis Scott
Slade Griffin
Tim Glasby
Dale Finucane

These players are not bad players imo - just very ordinary.

The Toodster! Ouch

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Or Mitchell Piss

Piss off Jack

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Imo (I'm using the definition of "nuffy" as someone who was a very ordinary and/or average player, regardless of ant Origin or Test caps accrued):

Steve Turner
Anthony Quinn
Brett Finch
Brett White
Michael Robertson
Jason King
Mark Bryant
Jarrod Saffy
Ben Hornby
Vic Mauro
Shane Rodney
Bryan Norrie
Todd Lowrie
Jaiman Lowe
David Tyrell
Jason Clark
Kyle Turner
Kyle Feldt
Rory Kostjasyn
Chad Townsend
Matt Prior
Jason Bukuya
Sam Tagatese
Curtis Scott
Slade Griffin
Tim Glasby
Dale Finucane

These players are not bad players imo - just very ordinary.

I've bolded anyone who's not a middle forward in that list because I think it's easier to get away with a few ordinary ones in your 17.

As seen, many of the non-middles were wingers, and all of those bar Feldt were prior to 2013. I don't think the game is kind to sub par wingers these days. It has become a very important position. Personally I rate Kyle Feldt anyway. I was hoping we would get him.

Otherwise it's Finch, Hornby, Townsend, Scott and Griffin (who probably plays most of his minutes at 'lock' anyway). Also I rate Finch and Hornby as footballers even if they weren't the best playmakers. Townsend too I guess. Curtis Scott was still eligible for the NYC this year.

 

[Eelementary]

The Toodster! Ouch

Not saying he was a bad player; but he was rather average, and won a Grand Final.

 

[Eelementary]

I've bolded anyone who's not a middle forward in that list because I think it's easier to get away with a few ordinary ones in your 17.

As seen, many of the non-middles were wingers, and all of those bar Feldt were prior to 2013. I don't think the game is kind to sub par wingers these days. It has become a very important position. Personally I rate Kyle Feldt anyway. I was hoping we would get him.

Otherwise it's Finch, Hornby, Townsend, Scott and Griffin (who probably plays most of his minutes at 'lock' anyway). Also I rate Finch and Hornby as footballers even if they weren't the best playmakers. Townsend too I guess. Curtis Scott was still eligible for the NYC this year.

I don't think anyone on the list is a bad player; I just think they're average.

They all offered something to their Grand Final-winning teams.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

They certainly didn't lose any big games for them, which is what the worst players are all capable of doing.