Rumours and Stuff

[Noise]

When did we last do something like that (i.e. move a bloke on mid-contract and replace with an inferior player)? The closest thing I can remember is Jnr Paulo, but he'd already signed for another club and we were already screwed for the year.

Peats. And we have had inferior replacements ever since.

 

[IFR33K]

Because even without TPAs our offer was better than theirs.

We are a club that needs to take risks on injury prone and ill-disciplined players in order to get talent into our team at affordable prices.

Mate, whatever BA or the club does you just change your tune to suit. No offence but you have no idea.

 

[hindy111]

Also go after that Rhyse Martin. Off contract and Dogs cant offer bigs. At worse drive his price up. Kick the dog while down

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Mate, whatever BA or the club does you just change your tune to suit. No offence but you have no idea.

Mate, you're the one with no idea if you think this is about BA or the people currently running the club. Prior to this mob we found other ways to try and compete with better resourced clubs, including cheating. Why the f**k would we have cheated if we didn't need to? Just for shits and giggles? Prior to the cheating we just finished at the bottom of the table year after year. You don't f**king get it, do you? You can pick scapegoats all you want, but the fact is it doesn't matter who we put in charge. The club is fundamentally unable to compete with 'better' clubs for more than a year or so at a time. Our culture, our attitude, our reputation. They are all massive handbrakes. And they provide fuel for people like you to demand change. Again. And so we start all over. Again. And nothing changes.

Kearney and Stuart both won spoons here, but at better clubs they seem to be able to win more games than we do. And the Warriors and Raiders are notoriously inconsistent clubs anyway. Regardless of who coaches them.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The Warriors and Raiders get coaches like Kearney and Stuart - the kinds of coaches we get. I'm certain if Brad Arthur was a better coach than either of them he would already be coaching somewhere better. Rumours about Bellamy leaving Melbourne for the Broncos, but never rumours about him coming to Parra. Shane Flanagan is a former Eels player, but there's never rumours about him coming here either. Why would they?

 

[IFR33K]

Mate, you're the one with no idea if you think this is about BA or the people currently running the club. Prior to this mob we found other ways to try and compete with better resourced clubs, including cheating. Why the f**k would we have cheated if we didn't need to? Just for shits and giggles? Prior to the cheating we just finished at the bottom of the table year after year. You don't f**king get it, do you? You can pick scapegoats all you want, but the fact is it doesn't matter who we put in charge. The club is fundamentally unable to compete with 'better' clubs for more than a year or so at a time. Our culture, our attitude, our reputation. They are all massive handbrakes. And they provide fuel for people like you to demand change. Again. And so we start all over. Again. And nothing changes.

Kearney and Stuart both won spoons here, but at better clubs they seem to be able to win more games than we do. And the Warriors and Raiders are notoriously inconsistent clubs anyway. Regardless of who coaches them.

I never mentioned anything about our coaches. We’ve had a losing culture since the 90’s, with somewhat success under BS. We cheated to compete with other clubs, and to field a quality roster. Do you honestly think we’re the only team that’s cheated? I’d be surprised if there were a club out there that hasn’t cheated or manipulated the cap. They just haven’t had a whistle blower call them out. Do you think maybe our shit culture is being helped with signings like KE, Corey, Furgo and Jnr? Don’t be in denial, the predicament we’re in is associated with the shit we’re signing.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I never mentioned anything about our coaches.

Mate, whatever BA or the club does you just change your tune to suit. No offence but you have no idea.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We’ve had a losing culture since the 90’s, with somewhat success under BS. We cheated to compete with other clubs, and to field a quality roster. Do you honestly think we’re the only team that’s cheated? I’d be surprised if there were a club out there that hasn’t cheated or manipulated the cap. They just haven’t had a whistle blower call them out. Do you think maybe our shit culture is being helped with signings like KE, Corey, Furgo and Jnr? Don’t be in denial, the predicament we’re in is associated with the shit we’re signing.

I agree to an extent. However the culture in the playing group is a separate issue to the culture within the membership and other stakeholders who have much longer term influence over the club.

As for guys like Norman and Ferguson, they aren't bad signings, they are high risk signings. Don't assume all risk is negative. We could sign an entire squad of essentially risk free players but we would be guaranteed to get minimum value from all of them and still finish in the bottom half of the ladder every year. At least with high risk signings we're capable of seasons like the previous two (13 and 16 wins).

 

[Eelementary]

I recall Semi himself having a few brain fades, too...

 

[IFR33K]

Lmao. I never mentioned anything about him. Just pointing out that you’re a yes person to the club.

 

[JohnStoppafarty]

I reckon Ferguson has sorted himself and will be a model citizen. It sounds like he has had a lightbulb moment. Hopefully he goes very well for us.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Lmao. I never mentioned anything about him. Just pointing out that you’re a yes person to the club.

In the sense that I recognise they are acting under significant constraints then I suppose I am a yes man. If we continually get shit people running the club then it is either just bad luck, or a structural problem, or it is somebody's fault. Whose fault could it be if we keep getting low quality coaches and administrators year after year after year? Come on merkin, give me some names. I want a scapegoat too.

 

[Gazzamatta]

I read a few times how K Edwards also had "light bulb moments". T Williams is another as is Corey. The game is littered with bad boys "turning the corner". Problem is there is usually another corner up ahead.
Truthfully though I'm more concerned with how we deal with the issues. We seem to think we are strong enough to control these issues when its very obvious we arent.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I reckon Ferguson has sorted himself and will be a model citizen. It sounds like he has had a lightbulb moment. Hopefully he goes very well for us.

He is still just a celebratory drink away from becoming Kenny Edwards.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I read a few times how K Edwards also had "light bulb moments". T Williams is another as is Corey. The game is littered with bad boys "turning the corner". Problem is there is usually another corner up ahead.
Truthfully though I'm more concerned with how we deal with the issues. We seem to think we are strong enough to control these issues when its very obvious we arent.

We might be and we might not. Can we afford not to take risks? How much extra do you think a low-risk player of Ferguson's ability would cost?

 

[Pazza]

Also go after that Rhyse Martin. Off contract and Dogs cant offer bigs. At worse drive his price up. Kick the dog while down

Stud player.

Well worth a shot

 

[hindy111]

Mate, whatever BA or the club does you just change your tune to suit. No offence but you have no idea.

He is trying to give a logical explanation. I think he is right in most ways as well.
It isn't always as simple as it seems.

Untill we have a good steady flow of juniors we wont have constant success.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

I reckon Ferguson has sorted himself and will be a model citizen. It sounds like he has had a lightbulb moment. Hopefully he goes very well for us.

Kids can do that

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Peats. And we have had inferior replacements ever since.

OK. But that was in the year we got busted for the cap cheating. We didn't have a lot of choice (other than to give up).

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Also go after that Rhyse Martin. Off contract and Dogs cant offer bigs. At worse drive his price up. Kick the dog while down

Can you imagine if we did sign a 26 year old who just made his NRL debut and it didn't work out? Even if was on the cheap? Everyone involved would be treated like a complete idiot on here.