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Obscene Assassin

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Just because the Titans overpaid doesn't mean he was worth that much.

I could pay $1,000,000 for a shitty Hyundai, that doesn't mean it's worth a million dollars.

He was on a reported 1.2 mill at the titans. He came here and wasn't on that much therefore he took a pay cut as he was guaranteed that much. This isn't about worth, it's about the number on the contract.
 

El Diablo

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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...s/news-story/0c302acf664fbffd6f945e71c0648762

Jarryd Hayne targeted by French rugby as Parramatta Eels deal stalls

DEAN RITCHIE, EXCLUSIVE, The Daily Telegraph
October 28, 2018 6:43pm


IN what could be another sensational move in Jarryd Hayne’s fascinating career, French rugby union sides have expressed interest in signing the Parramatta champion who admits his time at the Eels could be over as the club scrambles to fit him under the salary cap.

It means Hayne could follow former Parramatta winger Semi Radradra into the French rugby ranks.

French officials have told The Daily Telegraph of a strong desire to lure Hayne away from Australian rugby league and into Europe.

Clubs in France have officially made contact with Hayne’s management team in Australia.

The possible move could lead to Hayne qualifying for Fiji at next year’s rugby union World Cup in Japan.

Hayne, who played in a charity cricket match in Sydney on Sunday, admits it’s unlikely he’ll be at the Eels in 2019.

“I’ve obviously waited a while to get something on paper, but I think the long story short is Parra just can’t,” Hayne told AAP.

“They’ve already done their roster. It was done before I actually got there (from the Gold Coast at the start of 2018).

“You hear speculation that some of those players might be leaving and what not. I think that’s what they’re waiting for.

“But no one has left yet and pre-season starts in a couple of days so it’s not looking good.

“I’m going to have to (look around) because I don’t have a job. In four days my contract is over.”

Reports also emerged over the weekend of interest in Hayne from New Zealand rugby union.

Hayne has been linked to three of New Zealand rugby’s five Super Rugby franchises — the Crusaders, Highlanders and Chiefs.

By signing with the San Francisco 49ers NFL team in 2015, Hayne has shown he harbours no fear about confronting a new challenge in his career.

After a late-season surge in form, there appears little doubt Hayne would have a strong and immediate impact in French rugby union.

The Eels still want to retain Hayne and hope to secure a deal within the next fortnight.

“They want to keep me and have obviously been adamant about that but the reality is they can’t,” he said.

“There’s just no room. As sad as it is it’s just reality. I was lucky enough to get there last year and have a year there.”

French sources claim Hayne could earn around $750,000 a season playing European rugby union.

Parramatta chief executive Bernie Gurr said just last week that his club wanted to sign Hayne.

“We’re still talking to Jarryd. We’ve obviously expressed our desire, and let that be known publicly that we’d like Jarryd to stay at our club,” Gurr said.
 

Obscene Assassin

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Anyway, if Hayne wanted a contract he would've been open to negotiations throughout the year. Can't be surprised there's no money or spots left if you wait until September to start negotiating.

We did sign Paulo, Ferguson, Lane, Sivo and Davey throughout the year only losing Edwards who was contracted past 2019. As for Sivo and Davey both would be on minimum wage but that's still money and spots taken away.
 

hindy111

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Anyway, if Hayne wanted a contract he would've been open to negotiations throughout the year. Can't be surprised there's no money or spots left if you wait until September to start negotiating.

We did sign Paulo, Ferguson, Lane, Sivo and Davey throughout the year only losing Edwards who was contracted past 2019. As for Sivo and Davey both would be on minimum wage but that's still money and spots taken away.

Do think we had 500k to offer Hayne and he wanted more? If so do we have money to spend?
Seems odd the club had nothing left at all.
 

Rhyno

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Klemmer has asked the bulldogs for a release

Imagine Paulo and Klemmer in the same side

 
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eels_fan

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Klemmer has asked the bulldogs for a release

Imagine Paulo and Klemmer in the same side

He asked for a release because the knights have offered him $1.2m a year for 3 years which is double his dogs contract... we don’t have those dollars, nor is he worth them!
 

Gazzamatta

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At Haynes age you pay for results not potential. We made that mistake with Mennings. I dont think we should do that again but this is Parramatta I guess.
 

hineyrulz

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He asked for a release because the knights have offered him $1.2m a year for 3 years which is double his dogs contract... we don’t have those dollars, nor is he worth them!
The Knights are almost 3 million under the cap. No he’s not worth it but he is to them. They are still getting him and Ponga for 1.8m which is a steal.
 

ash411

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He was on a reported 1.2 mill at the titans. He came here and wasn't on that much therefore he took a pay cut as he was guaranteed that much. This isn't about worth, it's about the number on the contract.
OK, lets stop pretending that Haynes move to Parra went like this:
Parra: Hayne please come back to Parra, we only have $500K for you, but we really need you to come back?
Hayne: Oh ok, seeing as you asked nicely, I'll do it.
Parra: Thanks so much, you're the bestest.

He didn't take a pay cut, he wanted out of the gold coast, and back to Sydney & Parra, and he got what we believed he was worth (which was arguable his actual value at the time). Stop talking like it was a charitable or benevolent act on his part.
 

IFR33K

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OK, lets stop pretending that Haynes move to Parra went like this:
Parra: Hayne please come back to Parra, we only have $500K for you, but we really need you to come back?
Hayne: Oh ok, seeing as you asked nicely, I'll do it.
Parra: Thanks so much, you're the bestest.

He didn't take a pay cut, he wanted out of the gold coast, and back to Sydney & Parra, and he got what we believed he was worth (which was arguable his actual value at the time). Stop talking like it was a charitable or benevolent act on his part.


By all accounts, he was the one that triggered the release. Therefore one could assume he took a decent pay cut, as it wasn’t the club forcing him out.
 

ash411

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By all accounts, he was the one that triggered the release. Therefore one could assume he took a decent pay cut, as it wasn’t the club forcing him out.
I know he wanted out, did you actually read my whole post?

He didn't take a pay cut, he wanted out of the gold coast, and back to Sydney & Parra,
Right there, in black and white.

Read what you are arguing against FFS...
 

Noise

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I know he wanted out, did you actually read my whole post?


Right there, in black and white.

Read what you are arguing against FFS...

You are confusing worth with his actual pay. Do you believe he got over a million dollars in 2018 with us? Because that is what he was getting at the titans. He most certainly was getting less with us hence he took a pay cut.
 

IFR33K

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I know he wanted out, did you actually read my whole post?


Right there, in black and white.

Read what you are arguing against FFS...


Who the hell is arguing?

When you’re quoting your original post why didn’t you include the bit in brackets where you said “which was arguable his actual value at the time”.

Hayne triggered the move, yes he wanted to be in Sydney and I’m sure the titans would of given him a ‘f**k off package’, but there’s little doubt he also lost a few dollars in the process.
 

Poupou Escobar

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By all accounts, he was the one that triggered the release. Therefore one could assume he took a decent pay cut, as it wasn’t the club forcing him out.
He ‘triggered the release’ right after activating his option, and knowing the Titans wanted to get rid of him.
 

Poupou Escobar

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You are confusing worth with his actual pay. Do you believe he got over a million dollars in 2018 with us? Because that is what he was getting at the titans. He most certainly was getting less with us hence he took a pay cut.
It’s hardly a pay cut when the previous club was paying the freight.
 

ash411

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Who the hell is arguing?

When you’re quoting your original post why didn’t you include the bit in brackets where you said “which was arguable his actual value at the time”.

Hayne triggered the move, yes he wanted to be in Sydney and I’m sure the titans would of given him a ‘f**k off package’, but there’s little doubt he also lost a few dollars in the process.
You're arguing, See ^^^ you did it right there...

I didn't add that bit because it wasn't relevant to my argument. You said to me that he asked for the release, as if I didn't already know and didn't already say that in the post you were replying to, I quoted the line where I mentioned that he wanted the release, to show you that I a) knew that, and b) said that myself, as you must not have read it.

Yes, he got less at Parra than he was getting at the Titans, I'm not arguing against that, what I'm saying is that the pay he is getting now is closer to his actual worth, and that he was being overpaid at the Titans.
 

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