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Joshuatheeel

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Gutho is a very good player and obviously it wouId be good if he stays.

However Gutho has also never ever played a full season of footy at an “elite” level (like how he is currently performing and was in 2017).
 

IFR33K

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Here are some other fullbacks in the comp and their alleged salaries (quoted salaries should be used as a guide rather than proof):

Boyd: 2020 - $750k, 2021 - $750k
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www...sion-wayne-bennett/1mzouzc0fm5yv13766o8d469hj

Dugan: 2020 - $750k, 2021 - $750k
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp...s/news-story/6d778c703bd6a2b34494efa449ac7c22

RTS: 2020 - $900k
https://www.nospam21.com/rugby-league/players/roger-tuivasa-sheck/
(Zero Tackle)

Moylan (May need to play fullback once back from injury): 2020 - $900k, 2021 - $900k
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp...s-swap-for-james-maloney-20171003-gytayl.html

Turbo Tom: 2020 - $900k
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp...evic-for-next-four-years-20161008-grxzp7.html

Ponga: 2020 - $720k, 2021 - $720k, 2022 - $720k (negotiations already under way to extend and upgrade)
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.../17/nrl-knights-offer-kalyn-ponga-3m-contract

Mbye: 2020 - Approx $670k, 2021 - Approx $670k
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp...ntract-with-wests-tigers-20180529-p4zi8d.html

In the current market, I can’t see why Gutho shouldn’t expect a contract around that $700k mark.


Some of those players named have achieved much more than gutho has to date.
 

Noise

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Some of those players named have achieved much more than gutho has to date.

And those players seem to be getting paid more. The one that has achieved similar to Gutho - Mbye who is also captain is on close to 700.

And I would prefer Gutho at fullback over the next few years than Moylan, Dugan, Boyd or Mbye, who are all on similar or more cash. 700 seems fair to me
 
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chiefy1

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Gutho without his previous injury history would no doubt easily command the 700k mark. But there's no doubt he has slowed, and is now at more risk of re-injury.
For mine the 550-600 is fair as the club would be taking a risk.

Speed is one major attribute that a fullback must have, along with safety and good d.

As we've seen Gutho in open space will almost always be chased down.
 

IFR33K

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And those players seem to be getting paid more. The one that has achieved similar to Gutho - Mbye who is also captain is on close to 700.

And I would prefer Gutho at fullback over the next few years than Moylan, Dugan, Boyd or Mbye, who are all on similar or more cash. 700 seems fair to me


I agree to an extent. The sticky factor for me is his knees. Especially the 4 year deal. What if we offered 700k/year for 2 years only? Would he sign? If he wants to leave for 50k per year that’s fine.
 

Noise

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I agree to an extent. The sticky factor for me is his knees. Especially the 4 year deal. What if we offered 700k/year for 2 years only? Would he sign? If he wants to leave for 50k per year that’s fine.

I doubt he takes 2 years. Might take 700 for 3. If you are happy for him to leave for 50k who would you like to sign at fullback that will do as good a job?
 

Bazal

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Well I don't know about you guys but after the Insta post I am starting to F**KEN PANIC!!!!
 

Poupou Escobar

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Gutho without his previous injury history would no doubt easily command the 700k mark. But there's no doubt he has slowed, and is now at more risk of re-injury.
For mine the 550-600 is fair as the club would be taking a risk.

Speed is one major attribute that a fullback must have, along with safety and good d.

As we've seen Gutho in open space will almost always be chased down.
He also hogs all the good runs after an offload or quick play-the-ball. This pads his stats while taking opportunities away from more dangerous players. If anyone should be getting the ball against a retreating defence it’s Moses.
 

Incorrect

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I must say, if he is legit heading to Souths, it is completely inappropriate and poor form as a captain of one club to be so frivolous and unprofessional and hint you're joining another team on such a platform.
 

eel01s

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Guys I think we should all relax until there is an official announcement one way or the other. Obviously Gutho's manager is doing his job the way he knows best - whether it works remains to be seen.

I love what the King brings to Parra - but if he leaves he leaves. Won't be because we didn't want him.
 

IFR33K

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I doubt he takes 2 years. Might take 700 for 3. If you are happy for him to leave for 50k who would you like to sign at fullback that will do as good a job?


I’m not sure who we’ll sign, nor is it my job to know. All I know is I’m glad the club isn’t buckling into every agents demands. The club has thrown silly money in the past, not saying he won’t get 7-750k elsewhere, just saying I’m happy the club is travelling with caution. Yet to play origin or for his country, maybe he hasn’t even played a semi final yet. I’ll personally give him a lift to Redfern, so will many other fans it seems if it came to this.
 

IFR33K

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He also hogs all the good runs after an offload or quick play-the-ball. This pads his stats while taking opportunities away from more dangerous players. If anyone should be getting the ball against a retreating defence it’s Moses.


He does seem to try a little hard at times. He lacks the potency of the elite fullbacks of our game.
 

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