Rumours and Stuff

[Noise]

Lanes offloads are not just throwing the ball out the back to wherever it lands.
JFH does do that. Lanes tend to be with more purpose. I'd say Taka has a lot of offloads also but there not in the class of Lanes.
Cartwright is exceptional but the rest of his games ordinary.

Disagree. They are both good at them, JFH is better. I had a look at the 'ineffective offload' stats, ie when he ball just gets thrown out the back and no forward momentum is gained off the back of it.
JFH only had 1 ineffective offload
Lane had 2 ineffective offloads.
Lane had 4 line break assists and JFH had 5.

 

[Noise]

LBAs is a better indicator of the quality of a passing game than offloads. Even an ineffective offload is credited in that stat. Only Cartwright and Ma'u had more LBAs per game than Lane.

See above

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Lane had six LBAs to Fisher-Harris' four.

https://www.nrl.com/players/nrl-premiership/eels/shaun-lane/

https://www.nrl.com/players/nrl-premiership/panthers/james-fisher-harris/

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

I don't get the Stone love. OK he pushed some merkin that just scored a try but really, how useful is that? Needs to bring more than an attitude.

 

[IFR33K]

We didn't move Ma'u on, we made an offer but refused to match the higher offer he received.

He received two years. We offered 1. By all accounts he wanted to stay but we decided 2 years wasn’t in the clubs best interest. We moved him on.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Comparing offloads in the middle (JFH) with offloads out wide (Lane) is also apples v oranges. In the middle there are more defenders trying to prevent the offload, but fewer defenders behind the attacker covering his support players. Out wide there are usually defenders up in the faces of any potential receivers.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He received two years. We offered 1. By all accounts he wanted to stay but we decided 2 years wasn’t in the clubs best interest. We moved him on.

Moving someone on implies letting him go while under contract. We didn't do that. In fact, we didn't even not make him an offer. We made an offer and he took the better one from elsewhere. You don't offer a player a contract of you're moving him on. In fact you might even pay him to leave.

 

[Happy MEel]

He's as good as Finucane and Murray. In some ways he's better than either of them.

You’re off your head if you think Lane is as good as or better than Murray. That kid is a superstar and comparable to Jake T. in my opinion.

 

[hindy111]

JFH is a middle player.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Mean weren’t we happy the club decided to move Ma’u on a year early rather than a year late? We can do better than Lawrence.

Off course we can, but my whole point was, if we signed Arrow (which is probably unlikely), then Lawrence could be a good cheap option for a year as an edge forward, mainly because he is pretty good defensively. As I doubt we could afford to sign Arrow and another top quality edge forward.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

It doesn’t need to be a big money player, just like it doesn’t need to be Lawrence.

Name one experienced and reliable (not a liability in defence) edge forward currently available for $200k (or less)?

 

[Noise]

JFH is a middle player.

He played both this year which is why I included him.

 

[84 Baby]

Name one experienced and reliable (not a liability in defence) edge forward currently available for $200k (or less)?

Manu Mau was

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I don't reckon Ma'u would've been that cheap. His attack is far too good.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Manu Mau was

No chance manu was available for under $200k

 

[strider]

Mau was resigned after he won our player of the year. He would have been on far more than 200k

FFS 84 Baby

 

[hindy111]

Name one experienced and reliable (not a liability in defence) edge forward currently available for $200k (or less)?

Gower

 

[hindy111]

Mau was resigned after he won our player of the year. He would have been on far more than 200k

FFS 84 Baby

600k

To get him now I'd guess around the 400k mark.

 

[84 Baby]

I don't reckon Ma'u would've been that cheap. His attack is far too good.

No chance manu was available for under $200k

Mau was resigned after he won our player of the year. He would have been on far more than 200k

FFS 84 Baby

Must be why no one in NRL signed him. Why assume Lawrence then will accept less than $200k if similar pay days are available to him in UK?
And FFS Strider it doesn’t matter how much he WAS on. You don’t have to offer him the same amount

 

[hindy111]

Cause Lawrence is not at same level as Manu.
Lawrence takes what offered or retires.