Rumours and Stuff

[hineyrulz]

Pou loves facts i just gave him some

He loves twisting them to suit whatever agenda he is peddling.

 

[hineyrulz]

Old age catches up with everyone...

You can't help bad luck mate.

 

[IFR33K]

Hands v Hodgson debate is no longer a contest.

In Hands 12 first grade games while he has been out on the field Parra have won the scoreboard in 11 games and drawn 1.

Scoreboard while Hands is on the field

Rd 4 v Penrith 9-8 played 34 mins
Rd 5 v Roosters 12-all played 30 mins
Rd 6 v Tigers 10-4 played 28 mins
Rd 7 v Bulldogs 30-4 played 80 mins
Rd 8 v Broncos 10-8 played 49 mins
Rd 9 v Knights 18-6 played 36 mins
Rd 10 v Titans 12-4 played 25 mins
Rd 11 v Raiders 10-6 played 27 mins
Rd 12 v Souths 18-0 played 26 mins
Rd 13 v Cowboys 18-10 played 49 mins
Rd 15 v Bulldogs 34-12 played 80 mins
Rd 16 v Manly 34-4 played 80 mins

So points differential is +135 with 215 points for and 80 points against with Hands on the field.

With our PD +104 I don't think anyone else has played Hooker this year which means Hodgo is -31.

what’s even more impressive is, if hands plays 50 plus minutes, we absolutely trample the opposition.

 

[parra pete]

You can't help bad luck mate.

Better than the alternative....(not much, but better!!!)

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Because we play better without him. Our bench is stronger and whilst Hands is fit we don't need him. The 'injury' is a smokescreen. He is past it and knows that this year was a waste. He has contributed sweet f**k all and will not kick on for 2024.

BA realised too. I knew after 3 weeks.

Hands playing 80 minutes with all the ball against nuffy teams isn't representative of how it'll go against the strong teams. How many teams don't have two hookers in the 17 ffs? The Origin sides both have a specialist dummy half on the bench. Teams struggle to find enough minutes to spread between three bench forwards much less four of them.

 

[the phantom menace]

So is Hodgson injured or dropped ?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Pou loves facts i just gave him some

Tom Trbojevic has won a single finals match in his career. Using team stats to judge individuals is as dumb as WPYSA18 ffs

 

[the phantom menace]

Why would he be dropped?

Proof you don't actually watch any games.

 

[Legal Eel]

Because we play better without him. Our bench is stronger and whilst Hands is fit we don't need him. The 'injury' is a smokescreen. He is past it and knows that this year was a waste. He has contributed sweet f**k all and will not kick on for 2024.

BA realised too. I knew after 3 weeks.

The eye test proves correct yet again

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He loves twisting them to suit whatever agenda he is peddling.

My only agenda is to get you idiots to examine your shit opinions and realise nothing is as good or as bad as you think it is. When you heap scorn on some merkin I show you his positives. When you suck some other merkin's dick I point out the weeping sores. I'm not twisting the facts, I am showing you the other side of every shit argument you try to make.

 

[the phantom menace]

If Hodgson has the bulging disk injury that has been mentioned it could be long term.

I got a bulging disk when I realised it means he might no longer be in the 17 long term.

 

[the phantom menace]

My only agenda is to get you idiots to examine your shit opinions and realise nothing is as good or as bad as you think it is. When you heap scorn on some merkin I show you his positives. When you suck some other merkin's dick I point out the weeping sores.

Oh do f**k off and find some real life friends instead !

 

[Legal Eel]

Pou loves facts i just gave him some

Poi agrees with you and knows that Hands is a much better and more effective option than Hodgson.

but he will never post that because he is not debating parramatta or their players on their merits - he is just trolling and getting off on that alone

 

[Poupou Escobar]

what’s even more impressive is, if hands plays 50 plus minutes, we absolutely trample the opposition.

Or, does he get the luxury of playing long minutes when we are flogging teams, or are expected to?

 

[Legal Eel]

My only agenda is to get you idiots to examine your shit opinions and realise nothing is as good or as bad as you think it is. When you heap scorn on some merkin I show you his positives. When you suck some other merkin's dick I point out the weeping sores. I'm not twisting the facts, I am showing you the other side of every shit argument you try to make.

No, you are just antagonising for kicks

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Poi agrees with you and knows that Hands is a much better and more effective option than Hodgson.

but he will never post that because he is not debating parramatta or their players on their merits - he is just trolling and getting off on that alone

No I've said he is physically better. He is faster and stronger, which is why he looks good when the game has opened up. But he lacks the skill and experience required in tight games.

 

[emjaycee]

No, you are just antagonising for kicks

Interestingly I reckon he has been doing it for about 3 years and yet lots of people on here still take the bait, everytime.

 

[the phantom menace]

Maybe they take the bait for kicks too...

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I catch myself asking this question Pou, but you trying to be obtuse?

So why midseason?

We had the cap space this year and the Tigers need some cap space this year? Could be a lot of reasons

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Interestingly I reckon he has been doing it for about 3 years and yet lots of people on here still take the bait, everytime.

Well look, I can't bring sanity to these popular-but-flawed opinions without being contrarian. It is by definition impossible to shitcan widely held beliefs without looking like a merkin, but it isn't my intent to piss merkins off. I just don't care whether I do. The truth is more important to me.

I think Brendan Hands is a solid player and I'm excited about seeing him grow into the role. But he has come up with some very shit plays, including lack of effort. I've even provided video of it. But every merkin gives him a free pass. "hAnDs WaS pHeNoMeNaL!!11!" He's done a couple of good things, particularly running at broken defences late in games, but otherwise I think he's been pretty ordinary. Hodgson has been ordinary too but instead of a free pass, every little thing is under the microscope. Our last big game was against Souths and Hodgson was very good. The next week he worked his arse off against the Cowboys, making 21 tackles in 31 minutes. I just can't see why he would be dropped. At his age he is likely to have plenty of niggling injuries.