Poupou Escobar
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Even if it was just a flop or a hold it represents effort. And if those are the only tackles a merkin makes he won't be lasting long in first grade. Certainly not 165 games.
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Even if it was just a flop or a hold it represents effort. And if those are the only tackles a merkin makes he won't be lasting long in first grade. Certainly not 165 games.
He won't rack up the numbers he does without pushing across ffs. Eventually fatigue hits everyone, including Ofahengaue. In the case of that play he was already marking three merkins on the inside, with our tired markers failing to tie into the line. He was close enough to his outside defender that he was in position. If he pushed any harder Walker would (should) have seen the huge gap and passed back inside to where Matterson was strolling from marker.To take it back to the topic, being Joffa,....Joffa doesnt stack up numbers with flops, he genuinely is very hard working defender and will make a LOT of solid, safe, effective tackles, one on one or in numbers, head on. Pous point is sound regarding Joffa for most of the game, defence is his strength and he'll tally up decent numbers, even per minute.
But when he is tired and the opposition gets the defensive line moving laterally, look to oppositions hitting 1m inside him. Often it wont even hit Pou's stat sheet as a missed tackle because he wont get a hand on them.
Like at 2:40 here
Eels v Warriors - Round 19, 2023
The Parramatta Eels and the New Zealand Warriors face-off in Round 19 of the NRL Telstra Premiershipwww.nrl.com
(Im aware it wasnt "his" man but he should have been pushing across....this is what you will get all year)
Yeah, but the point is levels of effort are differential - and not captured by the stats you're trying to peddle.
Yes, but by your logic you're trying to make someone who is in the middle and ends up isolated completely blameless for it!
I think you'll find coaching staffs pay a fair bit of money for statistics. They are literally compiled by merkins watching the game.Yeah, but the point is levels of effort are differential - and not captured by the stats you're trying to peddle.
Differences in effort of this real nature are better captured by observation - live and subsequent video analysis - which is what coaches and their staff actually f**king do, while you're pretending to "educate" your footy fan peers on a forum.
Isolated means you don't have any team mates nearby. If the attacker is there and no other defenders are there then guess who is the one who's done his job.Yes, but by your logic you're trying to make someone who is in the middle and ends up isolated completely blameless for it!
I think you'll find coaching staff still watch the replays themselves too - regardless of what stats they're also paying some gimp to produce. Otherwise why would they even bother being in the coach's box to watch the games?
But if you read the posts, you'll see discussion is about the effort in doing that job - you even replied to the posts about effort being different levels, not represented by stats!
Nobody's denying the value of watching games. We all do it.
Any individual act, even when represented by one or more statistics, doesn't tell the full story. That's why we look at bigger samples.
I look forward to watching the immortal who can slow the ruck or even make a tackle without getting near the opposition.
You try to deny it all the time, in your post-match day thread quest to educate us "dumb merkins", lol!
No, some of us are denying the value of your selective use of statistics to attempt to support positions that the statistics you offer here don't adequately cover. But you know this, and we've been there before, QED.
I deny the value of our emotion-charged memories, especially after a loss. Watching the game shows us what happened. Working out why requires a dive into the data.
I base my positions on observation plus statistics. That trumps mere observation any day of the week.
We know. We try to tell you all the time...
They don't tell the full story either. A little fuller than an individual act/statistic perhaps, but as proven hardly close to a full story.
The point is Joffa isn't such an immortal. But if a middle is isolated then they should at least be able to slow the ruck by having a go and grab at or tackle one of the two players running their way... if they don't have effort in that key moment, then this won't be shown by your selective stats - and your (obtuse?) claim that a player's lack of effort in that situation can never be their fault crumbles like my grandma's apple pie pastry.
But in your high horse attempts to do so, you actually deny everyone else's observations - which as an equally fallible and emotion-charged fan/human you really have no right or special place to do. That's why so many people lol of ignore at your pathetic quests to "educate" us with your sloppy logic.
But your selective statistics and your use of them to attempt to prove your agenda of the day is shit.
650 grand. And a weekly wristy.
