Rumours and Stuff

[Twizzle]

Gus hit nail on head. Pathways and lack of culture at club.

Gus also said the Eels are the real deal this year.

Gus is full of shit.

 

[84 Baby]

Gus also said the Eels are the real deal this year.

Gus is full of shit.

After we beat the Dogs no doubt

 

[84 Baby]

It wouldn’t have happened anywhere else, regardless where were the consequences after sitting out a month? there weren’t because Brad is spineless!!

There weren’t because we lost those games and needed our best players to play. Or would you have been happy to continue to play Momoisea & Murchie to teach Matterson a lesson?

 

[hineyrulz]

Have a look at Penrith 2012 under Cleary.

Was that Cleary’s 11th season at Penrith??

 

[The Predictor]

There weren’t because we lost those games and needed our best players to play. Or would you have been happy to continue to play Momoisea & Murchie to teach Matterson a lesson?

Yes….and if u go back many were of the same opinion!!

 

[hineyrulz]

Yeh, I'm not sure that was my point.....

What was your point?? Deflecting for the coach by the looks??? Hardly an apple to apple debate 2012 was Cleary’s first year at a basket case of a club. This is Bea’s 11th season, how is that even close to being comparable.

 

[Glenneel]

I get what your point is, I just think it’s a poor one as Brad Arthur has two wooden spoons since then as a head coach, while Cleary has now taken the Panthers to three premierships in a row. You can forgive the poor earlier years if success comes around, success hasn’t come around for us.

One in 2018 - when was the other?

 

[Glenneel]

2013, I wasn’t counting 2012 against him.

BA's first season was 2014.

 

[King-Gutho94]

What was your point?? Deflecting for the coach by the looks??? Hardly an apple to apple debate 2012 was Cleary’s first year at a basket case of a club. This is Bea’s 11th season, how is that even close to being comparable.

Cleary took over a mess that was left from the previous admin under Matt Elliott.

Penrith were a basketcase he rebuilt them from the bottom up.

He got to them to a prelim in his 3rd year and they beat the minor premiers in a qualifying final in the chooks.

If Gus the germ didn't have such a big ego & held the course with Cleary because of an injury crisis in 2015 instead of bringing in a dope like Griffin & waste 4 years.

3 years with Griffin & Cleary then had to spend a year cleaning up the mess Griffin & Gould left.

I reckon Penrith are winning comps way before there dynasty actually started.

 

[hineyrulz]

Cleary took over a mess that was left from the previous admin under Matt Elliott.

Penrith were a basketcase he rebuilt them from the bottom up.

He got to them to a prelim in his 3rd year and they beat the minor premiers in a qualifying final in the chooks.

If Gus the germ didn't have such a big ego & held the course with Cleary because of an injury crisis in 2015 instead of bringing in a dope like Griffin & waste 4 years.

3 years with Griffin & Cleary then had to spend a year cleaning up the mess Griffin & Gould left.

I reckon Penrith are winning comps way before there dynasty actually started.

Nah Cleary is lucky and he could only starting coaching in 2020.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So the Dolphins had more talent than us when they beat us up? Are you cereal?

Yeah and we had more talent when we beat them last year.

Also whenever we beat the Panthers we have more talent than them which is why merkins all blame coaching when they beat us.

 

[Gronk]

What was your point?? Deflecting for the coach by the looks??? Hardly an apple to apple debate 2012 was Cleary’s first year at a basket case of a club. This is Bea’s 11th season, how is that even close to being comparable.

Now I'm not saying that BA's time isn't up, but some of you on here (and I'm also talking to you Brent Read and Phil Rothfield as well) who are throwing hand grenades with "11 years" painted on them are very conveniently forgetting the shit show that he had to endure of Fat Tony, Ned Flanders, the salary sap dramas, the club going into administration, Max Donnelly crafting constitutional protections etc. Building the team back to a respectable competitor and making the GF 18 months ago.

I know that the smart arse retort will be "LOL he's been here 11 years of the 38 year drought." Facts are facts, that's true, but there is way more to the story and this journey.

I know I just asked to be nuked by sarcasm @hineyrulz, so hit me with it. I'm ready.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Gus is a germ he may be right but he is always says he is right after the fact.

How many times has he said told you so in the past 15-20 years in the media yet anyone go and back-track if he actually said it or not.

Happens all the time come state of origin time. Gus claims to have all the solutions for NSW origin yet never wants to put his hand to coach the side.

Wtf would he know about what the culture is like at Parramatta or any other club he takes a swipe at in his media role on a weekly basis. Its just not about at Parramatta he has commentated on other rival clubs as well about similar stuff.

The bloke is a germ and channel 9 continue to be a disgrace that they continually employ him for his dribble especially while he has conflict of interest as GM of the Bulldogs.

*hindy111

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It wouldn’t have happened anywhere else, regardless where were the consequences after sitting out a month? there weren’t because Brad is spineless!!

We lost our first three games without him then won 9 from 18 with him.

 

[JokerEel]

Cleary took over a mess that was left from the previous admin under Matt Elliott.

Penrith were a basketcase he rebuilt them from the bottom up.

He got to them to a prelim in his 3rd year and they beat the minor premiers in a qualifying final in the chooks.

If Gus the germ didn't have such a big ego & held the course with Cleary because of an injury crisis in 2015 instead of bringing in a dope like Griffin & waste 4 years.

3 years with Griffin & Cleary then had to spend a year cleaning up the mess Griffin & Gould left.

I reckon Penrith are winning comps way before there dynasty actually started.

Probably not directing all my responses to your quote.

I don't think Cleary can take all the accolades in building up the club.
He would and should of had a say in how the club develops players though any smart head coach would want to know how his production line is...

Take a look at the side that he took the the preliminary final in 2014 I can probably count 2-3 juniors..

Panthers v Bulldogs

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Fast forward to 2020 there is 11-12 juniors..That's how you win and sustain being a top side

Panthers v Storm

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Now take a look our last game 6 juniors ..

Eels v Dolphins

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[Poupou Escobar]

Cleary took over a mess that was left from the previous admin under Matt Elliott.

Penrith were a basketcase he rebuilt them from the bottom up.

He got to them to a prelim in his 3rd year and they beat the minor premiers in a qualifying final in the chooks.

If Gus the germ didn't have such a big ego & held the course with Cleary because of an injury crisis in 2015 instead of bringing in a dope like Griffin & waste 4 years.

3 years with Griffin & Cleary then had to spend a year cleaning up the mess Griffin & Gould left.

I reckon Penrith are winning comps way before there dynasty actually started.

Penrith made the finals once in three years in Cleary’s first stint. He didn’t rebuild the club, Gould did through the funding he arranged. Cleary was a BA-level failure at three clubs before he was brought back to Penrith to help them keep his son at the club.

 

[Gazzamatta]

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Now I'm not saying that BA's time isn't up, but some of you on here (and I'm also talking to you Brent Read and Phil Rothfield as well) who are throwing hand grenades with "11 years" painted on them are very conveniently forgetting the shit show that he had to endure of Fat Tony, Ned Flanders, the salary sap dramas, the club going into administration, Max Donnelly crafting constitutional protections etc. Building the team back to a respectable competitor and making the GF 18 months ago.

I know that the smart arse retort will be "LOL he's been here 11 years of the 38 year drought." Facts are facts, that's true, but there is way more to the story and this journey.

I know I just asked to be nuked by sarcasm @hineyrulz, so hit me with it. I'm ready.

After 11 years he shouldnt still be dining on that meal Gronky. Whos to say Jason Taylor might not have done an even better job? We can only look at the here and now and it appears, as a club, we are going backwards at a rate of knots.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Now I'm not saying that BA's time isn't up, but some of you on here (and I'm also talking to you Brent Read and Phil Rothfield as well) who are throwing hand grenades with "11 years" painted on them are very conveniently forgetting the shit show that he had to endure of Fat Tony, Ned Flanders, the salary sap dramas, the club going into administration, Max Donnelly crafting constitutional protections etc. Building the team back to a respectable competitor and making the GF 18 months ago.

I know that the smart arse retort will be "LOL he's been here 11 years of the 38 year drought." Facts are facts, that's true, but there is way more to the story and this journey.

I know I just asked to be nuked by sarcasm @hineyrulz, so hit me with it. I'm ready.

The 11 years is irrelevant because a bunch of player contracts end every year and you have to bid for them all over again.

 

[the phantom menace]

We lost our first three games without him then won 9 from 18 with him.

9 wins from 18... what a conclusive stat about his effectiveness!

 

[Legal Eel]

Now I'm not saying that BA's time isn't up, but some of you on here (and I'm also talking to you Brent Read and Phil Rothfield as well) who are throwing hand grenades with "11 years" painted on them are very conveniently forgetting the shit show that he had to endure of Fat Tony, Ned Flanders, the salary sap dramas, the club going into administration, Max Donnelly crafting constitutional protections etc. Building the team back to a respectable competitor and making the GF 18 months ago.

I know that the smart arse retort will be "LOL he's been here 11 years of the 38 year drought." Facts are facts, that's true, but there is way more to the story and this journey.

I know I just asked to be nuked by sarcasm @hineyrulz, so hit me with it. I'm ready.

So if you are not saying BAs time is up, what IS your position?

no real opinion?