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hindy111

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Nobody's denying Cartwright is a slime bag. But have a think about what kind of woman would sleep with him. What does that say about her character? Let's not forget she accepted cash in exchange for terminating her unborn baby.

Don't get caught in the paradigm that there has to be a victim here. Attractive young women wield massive social power, and it looks like this one has gotten hold of you.

Young men - Fit and attractive with women throwing themselves at them. Can you imagine their Ego and Self esteem?
Could be a case of entrapment. Know one on here knows the facts.
She may of said she was on the pill - Lied - It could of been more of a casual arrangement.

Everyone wants to hate. She doesn't sound like the most intelligent women or the classiest. She sounds wild.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Nobody thinks it's good. But you're on a very slippery slope if you start fining/suspending people for stuff like this. Some people are just arseholes, and they don't help the game. But who decides when something is sufficiently immoral for the NRL to intervene? Say, some bloke leaves his wife, while she's pregnant and looking after 3 disabled kids? Appalling, yes. But what do you do?
Yep. Unfortunately the gold standard of behaviour in today's (probably any) society is whether or not it is illegal.
 

Stagger eel

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I thought the fluff piece by channel 9 and Weidler last week was very weird...

I can't help feel that the duke had his fingerprints all over it
 

Stagger eel

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Imo it's the involvement of club employee Zivanovic in the matter that would likely raise NRL IU eyebrows.

Well the sticking point there is he's actually not an employee at all he club but a successful business men ( ex panthers legend ) who I believe sponsors the club
 

Gazzamatta

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The article suggested every club has a Mr Fix it. I wonder who Parras is? Whoever it is I sack him or her. Surely they have failed their assignment in recent years.
 

bartman

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Fair enough. I'd thought one article gave him some sort of titled role... but it only said "life member and club fundraiser".

So maybe a thoroughbreads-type arrangement, but his involvement should still come to the attention of the League imo.
 

bartman

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The article suggested every club has a Mr Fix it. I wonder who Parras is? Whoever it is I sack him or her. Surely they have failed their assignment in recent years.
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Gazzamatta

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Fair enough. I'd thought one article gave him some sort of titled role... but it only said "life member and club fundraiser".

So maybe a thoroughbreads-type arrangement, but his involvement should still come to the attention of the League imo.
The article called him "A Footy Fixer". It later refers to Zivanovac as "A Rugby League Fixer". Additionally the article refers to "the extraordinary lengths The Panthers and Cartwrights supporters were willing to go to to safeguard his reputation and future prospects".
 

Bazal

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Good luck with that one in court.

You don't seem to get the difference between offering someone payment to do something, and threatening to harm them (financially or physically) if they don't. Of course both are designed to influence behaviour. One is legal (as long as you are not paying them to commit a crime), the other is not. The young lady has her own lawyers, and if she doesn't want to talk to the other side, she doesn't have to. Nobody in this very grubby affair has covered themselves in glory.
And you don't seem to understand that just because you strong arm someone with a "reward" rather than an obvious threat, doesn't make for any less a coerced response....
 

Poupou Escobar

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Mate she is a scumbag and obviously experienced manipulator. Stop painting her as a victim. She played the game and won. She's just pissed she didn't win by more.

Should've kept the baby. She could be getting paid for the next 18 years.
 

Bazal

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Mate she is a scumbag and obviously experienced manipulator. Stop painting her as a victim. She played the game and won. She's just pissed she didn't win by more.

Should've kept the baby. She could be getting paid for the next 18 years.

Bryce made her the "victim" by coercing her the way he did, so he doesn't really have anyone to blame but himself. Who knows what she would have done had that not occurred? She may have taken exactly the same course of action and none of this would ever be an issue, but we'll never know because her f**k buddy decided to strong arm her with money and authority
 
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