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King-Gutho94

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It doesn't defy logic. It makes perfect sense. The pathway for his son at hooker is all but clear. That's all he cares about. He has destroyed these last two seasons with his ulterior motives....

you can say he destroyed our premiership window years with jakey also....maybe we could have won a comp if we had a decent player on the bench that could bring something during games, rather than the baby giraffe 🦒
Carty was 18th man GF day.
 

Delboy

First Grade
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It doesn't defy logic. It makes perfect sense. The pathway for his son at hooker is all but clear. That's all he cares about. He has destroyed these last two seasons with his ulterior motives....

you can say he destroyed our premiership window years with jakey also....maybe we could have won a comp if we had a decent player on the bench that could bring something during games, rather than the baby giraffe 🦒
That’s very unfair on the ability of Matt Arthur who is a genuinely very good player, the issue there is the failure to sign an adequate player, Lussick has not met any metrics of being a serviceable NRL 9. Don't think anyone should jump on a players ability because of his name, go and watch him play and you may see a different player to your comments.
 

gaffer

Juniors
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That’s very unfair on the ability of Matt Arthur who is a genuinely very good player, the issue there is the failure to sign an adequate player, Lussick has not met any metrics of being a serviceable NRL 9. Don't think anyone should jump on a players ability because of his name, go and watch him play and you may see a different player to your comments.
what about ryley smith that we got from penrith Will he ever get a chance over the son
 

Delboy

First Grade
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We got him because he’s a plodder, no one is getting in Matty’s way while Daddy has a say. Let’s hope that say is ended very soon.
Cmon, Matt is a very good player and will make his way to NRL, his name has nothing to do with his ability. Your view on the coach is shared by most, dont sledge the son as he’s actually better than what’s above him , even at this age.
 

Noise

Coach
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Cmon, Matt is a very good player and will make his way to NRL, his name has nothing to do with his ability. Your view on the coach is shared by most, dont sledge the son as he’s actually better than what’s above him , even at this age.
The problem isn't Matt or his ability. It's the fact that we have refused to get a quality long term hooker in the mean time (2 years) that may block Matt's pathway. In fact the coach sought out a backup hooker from the super league and threw him into a starting 80min role who just so happens to be his favourite player's (Gutho) brother in law.

The same thing happened when we needed a backup half / spark off the bench in 21/22. Instead the spot was kept free for Jake.
 

Delboy

First Grade
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The problem isn't Matt or his ability. It's the fact that we have refused to get a quality long term hooker in the mean time (2 years) that may block Matt's pathway. In fact the coach sought out a backup hooker from the super league and threw him into a starting 80min role who just so happens to be his favourite player's (Gutho) brother in law.

The same thing happened when we needed a backup half / spark off the bench in 21/22. Instead the spot was kept free for Jake.
So, do we have an efficient R&R team, the6 seem to want to sign projects continually and then hope they improve. A strong R&R has kept the Storm, Roosters etc at the pointy end of the game, ours not so much.
The issue of signing plodders isn’t restricted to the 9 position.
 

Noise

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So, do we have an efficient R&R team, the6 seem to want to sign projects continually and then hope they improve. A strong R&R has kept the Storm, Roosters etc at the pointy end of the game, ours not so much.
The issue of signing plodders isn’t restricted to the 9 position.
Yes and BA is on that R&R team. Has been since the R&R team was created. BA wanted Lussick and is a fan of Lussick. He loves plodders and thinks he can polish them. He can't.
 

Gazzamatta

Coach
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We got him because he’s a plodder, no one is getting in Matty’s way while Daddy has a say. Let’s hope that say is ended very soon.
Gee Id hate to think thats the case Hiney as much as I love ya mate.
That sait Its unfathomable that we havent got a decent 9 even if its only to ease Matt into the 1s on a reasonable timeline. Lussick will be plodding up the 2s next year and if Boods dosent cut it or something happens to him we are back where we are now. Meni Luke gets 10 to 15 mins every week so hes on the outer. The way Hands has been treated he should run to the nearest exit. I see other young 9s coming through but whats the chances they will stick around under the current regime.
We need change.
 

Gazzamatta

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So, do we have an efficient R&R team, the6 seem to want to sign projects continually and then hope they improve. A strong R&R has kept the Storm, Roosters etc at the pointy end of the game, ours not so much.
The issue of signing plodders isn’t restricted to the 9 position.
Is it who we sign or who is charged with the responsibility to develop them?
 

Gazzamatta

Coach
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Yes and BA is on that R&R team. Has been since the R&R team was created. BA wanted Lussick and is a fan of Lussick. He loves plodders and thinks he can polish them. He can't.
Id guess BA wants every player signed. He may not get everyone he wants but I cant imagine a universe where players are signed against BAs wishes.
 

hindy111

Post Whore
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Unfortunately, Lussick is the worst hooker in the comp by a long way. Playing off the bench in SuperLeague and then immediately inserted into a starting role on NRL defies logic. Although Hands does have some issues, the club has a higher winning rate when he starts at 9, and he is much quicker around the field.

It’s impossible to succeed with such a poor 9 given how often he starts plays, that’s the place we should start to speed up our game. His passing is far from satisfactory, high , low and slow.

He is hopeless. Unbelievable really
 

Soren Lorenson

First Grade
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Gee Id hate to think thats the case Hiney as much as I love ya mate.
That sait Its unfathomable that we havent got a decent 9 even if its only to ease Matt into the 1s on a reasonable timeline. Lussick will be plodding up the 2s next year and if Boods dosent cut it or something happens to him we are back where we are now. Meni Luke gets 10 to 15 mins every week so hes on the outer. The way Hands has been treated he should run to the nearest exit. I see other young 9s coming through but whats the chances they will stick around under the current regime.
We need change.
Don't forget the club signed Hodgson who in theory was a decent 9 and he should have been here this year. I can see what they were trying to do, it just has backfired spectacularly (which I also acknowledge many many people on here foresaw).

#disclaimer: this is in no way a defence of BA or MON who I strongly believe should now be shot into space via a very large cannon, especially MON whose poor performance has not been able to be papered over by BA's average coaching.
 

hindy111

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Cmon, Matt is a very good player and will make his way to NRL, his name has nothing to do with his ability. Your view on the coach is shared by most, dont sledge the son as he’s actually better than what’s above him , even at this age.

What he also is compared to his brother is very confident and doesn't 2nd guess what he is going to do Wether it's right or wrong he goes for it.
 

hineyrulz

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Cmon, Matt is a very good player and will make his way to NRL, his name has nothing to do with his ability. Your view on the coach is shared by most, dont sledge the son as he’s actually better than what’s above him , even at this age.
Blind Freddy can see Matt has talent, but he’s physically nowhere near ready for first grade and might never be. It’s disgraceful the decisions that have been made since Mahoney was allowed to walk out the door.

Blind Freddy can also see the path has been made as easily for Matty as possible by the Nepotism Gnome.
 

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