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Avenger

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@the phantom menace, why do you like every post I make when I challenge @Poupou Escobar, but then turn around and criticise me when I challenge left-leaning politics or express my faith?


I’m not liking it (pun intended). I’m starting to think you might be a bit of a twisted sycophant, seemingly fascinated with our troll—who, to be fair, has never personally offended me but does annoy me from time to time.
 

Avenger

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Btw does Dylan Brown potential ticking time bomb with his ACL should that be a consideration if Gutho comes to us for a release for next year.

Now it's all good saying Hawkins is a backup and can fill in.

But it's rolling the dice a lot with Moses being stuck with a Rookie FB and a backup half if Drown goes down and we don't have Gutho as an insurance policy for 2025 at a minimum.

Like it's just asking for trouble.
Agree, the injury sustained by Brown is almost identical to what happened pre ACL to Sam Walker. It only took 9 months for it to pop.
 

King-Gutho94

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Agree, the injury sustained by Brown is almost identical to what happened pre ACL to Sam Walker. It only took 9 months for it to pop.
Having remembered about the Drown injury today.

I sort have changed my mind in terms of 2025

it's madness letting Gutho go next year at least.

If he signs for somewhere else in 2026 then that's just the way it rolls.

But next year I think his value may be still important especially with that time bomb and lack of experience in other areas of the spine.
 

emjaycee

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@the phantom menace, why do you like every post I make when I challenge @Poupou Escobar, but then turn around and criticise me when I challenge left-leaning politics or express my faith?


I’m not liking it (pun intended). I’m starting to think you might be a bit of a twisted sycophant, seemingly fascinated with our troll—who, to be fair, has never personally offended me but does annoy me from time to time.
Don't take it personally mate. He likes every post that challenges Pou from every poster.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Alamoti signed with Penrith for 250k, half of his Canterbury contract. No one wanted him, he thrived at Penrith.
Nobody wanted him because he can't tackle. He went from 80% effectiveness at Canterbury to a slightly-less-shit 83% at Penrith where outside backs are rarely left on their own in defence. He's not worth more than $250k, which is double the minimum salary.
 

Poupou Escobar

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16 mins 40 seconds

Some interesting comments here about Ryles and the developing relationship with Moses. First I've heard of it, if it's true.
"It started poorly for Parramatta..."

Two wins from three against eventual top eight teams, including the premiers. It went downhill after we lost Moses. That's when merkins decided it was too hard.
 

Johnny88

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Why the Parramatta Eels’ treatment of captain Clint Gutherson is disrespectful and outrageous
Clint Gutherson is a Parramatta club legend that is being treated like some D-grade wannabe. He isn’t just a player – he’s a leader and inspiration who deserves better than a club that’s slowly eroding his status, writes DEAN RITCHIE.

I don’t think it’s possible for Parramatta to be any more disrespectful to Clint Gutherson.
Here is a club legend being treated like some D-grade wannabe. The public humiliation of Gutherson by Parramatta is outrageous.
I’m not sure what kind of a coach Jason Ryles wants to be but he might need to convey more regard and deference to senior players.
Gutherson is looking at copping four knockout blows – told he can look for a new club, told it’s unlikely he will be re-signed, told he won’t be playing his favoured fullback and probably told he is no longer captain.
This for a player who has played more than 200 NRL games for Parramatta and been the club’s heart and soul for nearly a decade.
If Parramatta doesn’t want Gutherson then tell him rather than slowly eroding his status at the club. He deserves so much better. This bloke isn’t just a player – he’s a leader and inspiration.

Should he secure a new deal at a rival club, Gutherson should request an immediate release for 2025. Why remain at a club that treats him with such disdain?
Even if Gutherson doesn’t find a new club, does he really want to go back to Parramatta? How could he walk through the gates at training ready to give his all for a club that’s treated him so shabbily?

Gerard
Ryles wants to re-work his roster like all new coaches but some players deserve more than just being told, essentially, to bugger off.
Father Time catches up with all players and maybe Gutherson doesn’t possess the speed to remain at fullback.
But pushing him into some manufactured, utility position is a low blow for a player Parramatta fans adore for his perseverance, courage and reliability.
Just last week, after a season of disappointment, Gutherson still claimed three individual awards at Parramatta’s presentation night – members’ player of the year, players’ player and coaches’ award.
The players’ player award shows how highly Gutherson is held within the playing roster.
Blind Freddy can see Parramatta want Gutherson out of the club. I know rugby league is cutthroat but surely there are more compassionate and sympathetic methods to avoid public humiliation for a club champion.

I couldn’t imagine this happening at the Sydney Roosters or Melbourne Storm? Look how the Roosters carefully managed Jared Waerea-Hargreaves and Luke Keary out of the club. It’s called respect.
Gutherson, officially off-contract after next season, is only 30 and would be a wonderful fit at St George Illawarra. Coach Shane Flanagan will only need to show Gutherson some love to get his man.
When asked about Gutherson just last year, Broncos superstar Reece Walsh said: “I try to study (and) watch ‘Gutho’ as much as I can. He’s one of the best defensive fullbacks in the comp.
“If you watch him, he’s always on his bike, working his butt for the team and he’s saving more tries than some teams are scoring. He’s someone that I try to watch as much as I can.”

And last month, Phil Gould said he would be “shocked” if Gutherson left Parramatta.
“He’s a leader, he’s competitive – I can’t understand why Parramatta wouldn’t want him,” Gould said.
“If I was going to Parramatta as a new coach, he’d be the first bloke I’d sit down and talk to, to find out what’s happening there, what’s going on, and where they need to go. It would be hard to imagine Parramatta without him.”
Even Parramatta’s website offers rare accolades to Gutherson.
It reads: “Known for his competitiveness and his unparalleled effort and desire, there is a strong correlation to why Gutherson is a Parramatta Eels favourite and fondly known as ‘The King’ by fans.”
It appears the King is dead at Parramatta, long live the King.
 

TheCrowe

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Why the Parramatta Eels’ treatment of captain Clint Gutherson is disrespectful and outrageous
Clint Gutherson is a Parramatta club legend that is being treated like some D-grade wannabe. He isn’t just a player – he’s a leader and inspiration who deserves better than a club that’s slowly eroding his status, writes DEAN RITCHIE.

I don’t think it’s possible for Parramatta to be any more disrespectful to Clint Gutherson.
Here is a club legend being treated like some D-grade wannabe. The public humiliation of Gutherson by Parramatta is outrageous.
I’m not sure what kind of a coach Jason Ryles wants to be but he might need to convey more regard and deference to senior players.
Gutherson is looking at copping four knockout blows – told he can look for a new club, told it’s unlikely he will be re-signed, told he won’t be playing his favoured fullback and probably told he is no longer captain.
This for a player who has played more than 200 NRL games for Parramatta and been the club’s heart and soul for nearly a decade.
If Parramatta doesn’t want Gutherson then tell him rather than slowly eroding his status at the club. He deserves so much better. This bloke isn’t just a player – he’s a leader and inspiration.

Should he secure a new deal at a rival club, Gutherson should request an immediate release for 2025. Why remain at a club that treats him with such disdain?
Even if Gutherson doesn’t find a new club, does he really want to go back to Parramatta? How could he walk through the gates at training ready to give his all for a club that’s treated him so shabbily?

Gerard
Ryles wants to re-work his roster like all new coaches but some players deserve more than just being told, essentially, to bugger off.
Father Time catches up with all players and maybe Gutherson doesn’t possess the speed to remain at fullback.
But pushing him into some manufactured, utility position is a low blow for a player Parramatta fans adore for his perseverance, courage and reliability.
Just last week, after a season of disappointment, Gutherson still claimed three individual awards at Parramatta’s presentation night – members’ player of the year, players’ player and coaches’ award.
The players’ player award shows how highly Gutherson is held within the playing roster.
Blind Freddy can see Parramatta want Gutherson out of the club. I know rugby league is cutthroat but surely there are more compassionate and sympathetic methods to avoid public humiliation for a club champion.

I couldn’t imagine this happening at the Sydney Roosters or Melbourne Storm? Look how the Roosters carefully managed Jared Waerea-Hargreaves and Luke Keary out of the club. It’s called respect.
Gutherson, officially off-contract after next season, is only 30 and would be a wonderful fit at St George Illawarra. Coach Shane Flanagan will only need to show Gutherson some love to get his man.
When asked about Gutherson just last year, Broncos superstar Reece Walsh said: “I try to study (and) watch ‘Gutho’ as much as I can. He’s one of the best defensive fullbacks in the comp.
“If you watch him, he’s always on his bike, working his butt for the team and he’s saving more tries than some teams are scoring. He’s someone that I try to watch as much as I can.”

And last month, Phil Gould said he would be “shocked” if Gutherson left Parramatta.
“He’s a leader, he’s competitive – I can’t understand why Parramatta wouldn’t want him,” Gould said.
“If I was going to Parramatta as a new coach, he’d be the first bloke I’d sit down and talk to, to find out what’s happening there, what’s going on, and where they need to go. It would be hard to imagine Parramatta without him.”
Even Parramatta’s website offers rare accolades to Gutherson.
It reads: “Known for his competitiveness and his unparalleled effort and desire, there is a strong correlation to why Gutherson is a Parramatta Eels favourite and fondly known as ‘The King’ by fans.”
It appears the King is dead at Parramatta, long live the King.
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84 Baby

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If Parramatta doesn’t want Gutherson then tell him rather than slowly eroding his status at the club. He deserves so much better. This bloke isn’t just a player – he’s a leader and inspiration.
Ryles 100% has told Gutho his plans and just like with RCG is trying to help Gutho with getting best deal for 2026 and beyond.
Should he secure a new deal at a rival club, Gutherson should request an immediate release for 2025. Why remain at a club that treats him with such disdain?
And I’m sure that immediate release will have zero to do with maximising earnings.
Even if Gutherson doesn’t find a new club, does he really want to go back to Parramatta? How could he walk through the gates at training ready to give his all for a club that’s treated him so shabbily?
Because if he doesn’t it guarantees 2025 is his last year.

Nothing like this would ever happen at the Roosters! Isn’t that right, Mitchell Pearce?
I guess dickface is right though, the media beat up would never happen with the Rorters or Scum
 

Black Panther

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Nobody wanted him because he can't tackle. He went from 80% effectiveness at Canterbury to a slightly-less-shit 83% at Penrith where outside backs are rarely left on their own in defence. He's not worth more than $250k, which is double the minimum salary.
So you reckon 250k isn’t cheap for a First Grader now? ‘I doubt he was cheap’ were your words.
 

Gherkin

Juniors
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Why the Parramatta Eels’ treatment of captain Clint Gutherson is disrespectful and outrageous
Clint Gutherson is a Parramatta club legend that is being treated like some D-grade wannabe. He isn’t just a player – he’s a leader and inspiration who deserves better than a club that’s slowly eroding his status, writes DEAN RITCHIE.

I don’t think it’s possible for Parramatta to be any more disrespectful to Clint Gutherson.
Here is a club legend being treated like some D-grade wannabe. The public humiliation of Gutherson by Parramatta is outrageous.
I’m not sure what kind of a coach Jason Ryles wants to be but he might need to convey more regard and deference to senior players.
Gutherson is looking at copping four knockout blows – told he can look for a new club, told it’s unlikely he will be re-signed, told he won’t be playing his favoured fullback and probably told he is no longer captain.
This for a player who has played more than 200 NRL games for Parramatta and been the club’s heart and soul for nearly a decade.
If Parramatta doesn’t want Gutherson then tell him rather than slowly eroding his status at the club. He deserves so much better. This bloke isn’t just a player – he’s a leader and inspiration.

Should he secure a new deal at a rival club, Gutherson should request an immediate release for 2025. Why remain at a club that treats him with such disdain?
Even if Gutherson doesn’t find a new club, does he really want to go back to Parramatta? How could he walk through the gates at training ready to give his all for a club that’s treated him so shabbily?

Gerard
Ryles wants to re-work his roster like all new coaches but some players deserve more than just being told, essentially, to bugger off.
Father Time catches up with all players and maybe Gutherson doesn’t possess the speed to remain at fullback.
But pushing him into some manufactured, utility position is a low blow for a player Parramatta fans adore for his perseverance, courage and reliability.
Just last week, after a season of disappointment, Gutherson still claimed three individual awards at Parramatta’s presentation night – members’ player of the year, players’ player and coaches’ award.
The players’ player award shows how highly Gutherson is held within the playing roster.
Blind Freddy can see Parramatta want Gutherson out of the club. I know rugby league is cutthroat but surely there are more compassionate and sympathetic methods to avoid public humiliation for a club champion.

I couldn’t imagine this happening at the Sydney Roosters or Melbourne Storm? Look how the Roosters carefully managed Jared Waerea-Hargreaves and Luke Keary out of the club. It’s called respect.
Gutherson, officially off-contract after next season, is only 30 and would be a wonderful fit at St George Illawarra. Coach Shane Flanagan will only need to show Gutherson some love to get his man.
When asked about Gutherson just last year, Broncos superstar Reece Walsh said: “I try to study (and) watch ‘Gutho’ as much as I can. He’s one of the best defensive fullbacks in the comp.
“If you watch him, he’s always on his bike, working his butt for the team and he’s saving more tries than some teams are scoring. He’s someone that I try to watch as much as I can.”

And last month, Phil Gould said he would be “shocked” if Gutherson left Parramatta.
“He’s a leader, he’s competitive – I can’t understand why Parramatta wouldn’t want him,” Gould said.
“If I was going to Parramatta as a new coach, he’d be the first bloke I’d sit down and talk to, to find out what’s happening there, what’s going on, and where they need to go. It would be hard to imagine Parramatta without him.”
Even Parramatta’s website offers rare accolades to Gutherson.
It reads: “Known for his competitiveness and his unparalleled effort and desire, there is a strong correlation to why Gutherson is a Parramatta Eels favourite and fondly known as ‘The King’ by fans.”
It appears the King is dead at Parramatta, long live the King.
What a load of BS. I love Gutho, but the game has sped up and he’s slowed down. Personally I hope he stays, but not playing fullback.
We’ve actually done right by him. Ryles has been up front with him about where he sees him next year and we’ve even given him permission to talk to other clubs early, which is a benefit to Gutho.
Rugby league journalists are as low as it gets.
 

Hindmarshisgod2

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You’re the one saying we weren’t genuine contenders in 2022. If you’re basing it on the result of the grand final (a sample of one game) you’re off your head. If we were (or weren’t) genuine contenders, it was evident before the finals started. The ‘07 and ‘09 teams were just as ordinary as the ‘22 side.

The 2022 team could also beat anyone on the day. That preliminary final was a great comeback win, as underdogs.
Mate, you can shove your stats up your arse....the real.world works on street smarts and instincts. We were never winning shit whilst BA was here and was a miracle he made a GF...
 

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