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emjaycee

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Nothing to do with a new voice after 11 seasons?

Players don't forget how to play. You only have to lift 150 kilos above your chest once.

There is a fine line between a bad loss and an "acceptable loss". The media are great at creating doom and gloom that fans buy into.
In my opinion, nope - it has little to do with a new voice.
I said the same thing years ago. We simply don't have the cattle that other clubs would want, therefore our players aren't as good as we think.

Tell me who from our top 30 you would chase if you were Graham Richardson at the Tigers, or Gould at the Dogs and were trying to strengthen your top 17?

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3 definite and 4 possible backs and 4 possible forwards. So in my opinion, 11 of our top 33 would likely get a chance in the top 17 of the Tigers or Dogs and this is debatable.
 

Legal Eel

Juniors
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In my opinion, nope - it has little to do with a new voice.
I said the same thing years ago. We simply don't have the cattle that other clubs would want, therefore our players aren't as good as we think.

Tell me who from our top 30 you would chase if you were Graham Richardson at the Tigers, or Gould at the Dogs and were trying to strengthen your top 17?

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3 definite and 4 possible backs and 4 possible forwards. So in my opinion, 11 of our top 33 would likely get a chance in the top 17 of the Tigers or Dogs and this is debatable.
Its a fair summary - my only comment would be that Junior and Matto should be clear a "No" - they have both been discreetly shopped and the reason they are still her is that there are no takers.
 

84 Baby

Immortal
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Ryles would be weak and petty if he dropped anyone simply because they had signed elsewhere for 2026.
It wouldn’t simply be because he signed elsewhere though. He isn’t performing (part of that is likely because he signed elsewhere) and he’s still developing (in a year we’re going to struggle, why help develop him for someone else)
 

JokerEel

Coach
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My theory is that most of our top 17 players actually aren't as good as we would like them to be and this has been the case for a few years.

BA managed to get them to over perform in getting to consistent finals appearances from 2019-2022.

What we are seeing now is just how they are.

Apart from Moses (and now Lomax and possibly JAC), who else in our 1-17 walks into the three-time wooden spooners Tigers side tomorrow and improves them?


I understand the concept but it's not an individual game the players are not working as a team and you can see that just in their defense.

This takes time especially when you have a fairly big turn over off players and then add to that coaching staff..
 

Johnny88

Juniors
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Jim Sarantinos
CEO of the Parramatta Eels speaks to Dean Ritchie refuses to answer 2 questions


“I know our fans are frustrated but give us time, we have complete faith in our coach. We need understanding, patience and we will improve.”

This is the blunt message from Parramatta chief executive Jim Sarantinos after the club’s horror 0-2 start to the season.

In his first interview of the NRL season, Sarantinos backed the club’s decision to allow Clint Gutherson and Reagan Campbell-Gillard to leave, denied Dylan Brown had become a distraction and said he was “completely behind” new coach Jason Ryles.

Bulldog’s Bite posed 10 questions Eels fans wanted Sarantinos to answer about the club falling in such a heap. To his credit, Sarantinos fronted up under pressure and declined to answer just two.

Bulldog: Should you, as CEO, shoulder some blame for the first two defeats?

Sarantinos: No one at the club is shirking responsibility. My job is to support Jason, our staff and players through this period of change and ensure they feel that support at all times and have the resources they need to do their job.

Bulldog: Was letting Clint Gutherson and Reagan Campbell-Gillard a big mistake?

JS: Those decisions were made by both Clint and Reagan and our football department together, to get the best outcome for the club moving forward as well as the players’ futures. I am comfortable that these decisions are the right ones for us as a club and are a part of the change and reset that comes with a new head coach and a change in direction.

Bulldog: Are you shocked at the poor opening two games?

JS: We’re all disappointed with the results. It’s certainly not the start we were hoping for. However, we have driven a lot of change to the football program, across coaching, support staff and playing personnel, and we know it will take some time for that to all come together.

Bulldog: What’s your message to fans?

JS: We have the most loyal fans in the NRL and I understand that they are frustrated and disappointed but we have complete faith that the change and reset of the NRL program will make us a better club and we want our fans
to come on
the journey with us.

Bulldog: Many agree the Eels can’t make the finals already?

JS: It’s only round 3 and too early for predictions. We have a number of new players to our squad, a number of young players just starting out their NRL journey and we also have some key players returning in the coming weeks. It will take some time to build cohesion in the team and our performances will improve with time.

Bulldog: Is Dylan Brown now a distraction?

JS: No. Dylan Brown has made his decision and we’re all focused on the rest of the season and making sure our performances improve.

Bulldog: How are you supporting Jason Ryles?

JS: Jason has been fantastic from the day he first walked in the door and has built a great relationship with everyone at the club. We have supported Jason in bringing together his new coaching and support staff. We are completely behind his desire to drive change for the betterment of the club and we all want to see Jason and the team succeed. He is starting out his NRL head coaching journey and many others have experienced similar challenges, so it’s important that there is understanding and patience.

Bulldog: Was losing by such a big margin to Wests Tigers, who have collected the past three wooden spoons, acceptable?

JS: (Declined to comment.)

Bulldog: Where does the club go from here?

JS: We have a game to play this weekend against the Bulldogs and that is what everyone’s focus is on. We have the utmost belief and confidence in Jason’s vision and where he’s taking our football program.

Bulldog: It would appear the 39-year wait will continue?

JS: (Declined to comment, interview concluded.)

Bulldog says

Parramatta offered very little last weekend against Wests Tigers, who have run last in the past three years.

The Eels’ energy and enthusiasm were minimal, which is unusual because a new coach normally generates vigour and spark.



Parramatta needs to find respect and quickly. The club was confident and self-assured around the exit of Gutherson and Campbell-Gillard. Any regrets now?

Let’s be fair. Parramatta has been playing without Mitch Moses, Josh Addo-Carr and Ryan Matterson. Moses is world class but could he have stopped his side conceding 88 points in two games? I doubt it.

Ryles is two games into a four-year contract and deserves time but Parramatta fans are tired of being told to wait for their next premiership.

They are fed-up with being assured their team is in a rebuilding phase. It’s been 39 years and counting.

A premiership isn’t even in the equation for the Eels. They would be more worried about claiming another gong – a wooden spoon.

 

emjaycee

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I understand the concept but it's not an individual game the players are not working as a team and you can see that just in their defense.

This takes time especially when you have a fairly big turn over off players and then add to that coaching staff..
Agree 100% - the team is greater than the sum of its parts and that is the challenge of the coach and staff, however at the same time, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
 

emjaycee

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Fixed it.

Bulldog: Should you, as CEO, shoulder some blame for the first two defeats?

Sarantinos: Absolutely, in fact it is actually all my fault because I secretly support St. George and want them to do better, even at the cost of my employers success.

Bulldog: Was letting Clint Gutherson and Reagan Campbell-Gillard a big mistake?

JS: As a St. George supporter, I tried to engineer it so that both Clint and Reagan ended up at Wollongong. Luckily my beloved Dragons managed to get Guffo so I am comfortable that these decisions are the right ones.

Bulldog: Are you shocked at the poor opening two games?

JS: Not really. Have you seen our roster? We got rid of our captain and our best player in 2024 so we were expecting to get flogged and in fact, we aren't even sure when we will actually win a game this year.

Bulldog: What’s your message to fans?

JS: Mostly just to suck it up. We aren't as good as you would think and we have a rookie coach in charge so if we don't get the wooden spoon this year, you should be happy and keep buying our over-priced merchandise.

Bulldog: Many agree the Eels can’t make the finals already?

JS: We don't expect to.

Bulldog: Is Dylan Brown now a distraction?

JS: Yep, Dylan has made his decision and the fact we have no idea what we will do for a number 6 next year sucks. We have told Dylan just to pull the jersey on this year and to try and look interested, but we understand if he would rather be focused on playing with Kaylan in the men's room cubicles.

Bulldog: How are you supporting Jason Ryles?

JS: Who? Oh, you mean the new coach. Yeah well we supported the previous one for 11 years and this guy has only just turned up at Kellyville so we'll give him an extension soon and show our support that way. Should we be doing something else?

Bulldog: Was losing by such a big margin to Wests Tigers, who have collected the past three wooden spoons, acceptable?

JS: It was expected because our HoF is a life-member of the Tigers and he really wanted them to win.

Bulldog: Where does the club go from here?

JS: Our COE opens soon so hopefully we will be able to go out to Kellyville Park more often then we are at the moment. And of course we are going to Darwin in April.

Bulldog: It would appear the 39-year wait will continue?

JS: What has been 39 years again?
 

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