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Sam Burgess not in Sonny's class.

expert

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After winning only 1 NRL Premiership and failing at Rugby Union, {unlike Sonny}, Sammy blamed thoughs around him in Union for his failure. There's only 1 SBW and SB ain't in the same class as a person or athlete.
 

Perth Red

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True, Burgess is far superior. Capt on and off the field and for his country, greater work rate and far less likely to hand the ball over with a stupid flick pass. Ask yourself do you think the odds will be better for Sths winning the GF now Burgess is back or for roosters if SBW returned? Big Sam is far more influential on the potential success of the club.

failing in union is something to be proud of, its a sht house of a game.
 

hunters

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After winning only 1 NRL Premiership and failing at Rugby Union, {unlike Sonny}, Sammy blamed thoughs around him in Union for his failure. There's only 1 SBW and SB ain't in the same class as a person or athlete.

Geez you must have been hanging to get that off your chest! Feel better now sweetpea?
 

Perth Red

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Only one of them has the balls big enough to be back in the worlds toughest Rugby competition, and it aint the show pony $BW.
 

magpie4ever

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After winning only 1 NRL Premiership and failing at Rugby Union, {unlike Sonny}, Sammy blamed thoughs around him in Union for his failure. There's only 1 SBW and SB ain't in the same class as a person or athlete.

Is that meant to be "those" or I'm lost.
 

magpie4ever

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True, Burgess is far superior. Capt on and off the field and for his country, greater work rate and far less likely to hand the ball over with a stupid flick pass. Ask yourself do you think the odds will be better for Sths winning the GF now Burgess is back or for roosters if SBW returned? Big Sam is far more influential on the potential success of the club.

failing in union is something to be proud of, its a sht house of a game.

Being shithouse at a shithouse game somehow make you better than a top-flight performer at the 2 codes, low bow to draw. Double negtaive makes a positive.
 

Tommy Smith

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Yes, 'balls' is why he came back. Nothing to do with it being too hard.

SBW, like Brad Thorn, was world class in both sports. He's won 2 Premierships, 2 World Cups, and a Super Rugby title. Sam could only dream of that degree of influence and success in both codes.

Now chances are that I rate Sam higher than you. He's easily the best middle third forward I've ever seen. An 80 minute force of nature. But it's nontheless disappointing to see both he and the English Rugby Board fail miserably with his transition.

But at League, they're both geniuses. You won't see me denegrate either because I'm not an idiot.
 

magpie4ever

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Yes, 'balls' is why he came back. Nothing to do with it being too hard.

SBW, like Brad Thorn, was world class in both sports. He's won 2 Premierships, 2 World Cups, and a Super Rugby title. Sam could only dream of that degree of influence and success in both codes.

Now chances are that I rate Sam higher than you. He's easily the best middle third forward I've ever seen. An 80 minute force of nature. But it's nontheless disappointing to see both he and the English Rugby Board fail miserably with his transition.

But at League, they're both geniuses. You won't see me denegrate either because I'm not an idiot.

Really, showing signs of an idiot.
 

SpaceMonkey

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Now chances are that I rate Sam higher than you. He's easily the best middle third forward I've ever seen. An 80 minute force of nature. But it's nontheless disappointing to see both he and the English Rugby Board fail miserably with his transition.

Agree. He's a different style of player tho SBW, and a more specialised one. SBW is a rare freak who is equally brilliant at centre and second row, Sam is a pure forward. He was undone by the weird English obsession with having huge slow lumbering centres, hence their failed attempt to put him into that role.
 

WaznTheGreat

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LOL SBW is a bench player in Rugby and Burgess was so bad at Rugby he got booed out of the country

Hayne + NFL > Rugby scrubs
 

BranVan3000

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Who cares about rugby? Can we stop talking about that joke of a game. Sam came to realise what the rest of us knew - learning every nuance would take years. And he didn't want to waste years of his life in a dull as shit game
 

JJ

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LOL SBW is a bench player in Rugby and Burgess was so bad at Rugby he got booed out of the country

Hayne + NFL > Rugby scrubs

:lol: bench player that actually plays, and has an impact - no disgrace being behind perhaps the best 2nd 5 in All Black history...

Practice squad Hayne :lol: with the drop in wickets and preponderance of 20:20 perhaps the Hayne-train(ing squad) should take up cricket as his next challenge?
 

JJ

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If Remi Casty switched codes, he'd surpass everyone

Not Craig Gower, surely?

Funny though, most high-profile union converts do well, not the case the other way - union too specialised if you don't put the time in
 

DiegoNT

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Craig gower captained a premiership, and played origin, captained australia in league and played international Rugby.
By the OPs logic Gower is the GOAT
 

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