Scott Drinkwater

[Forbes Creek Dragons]

I wonder if the Holmes back to NRL rumours will have any bearing on maybe a Scott Drinkwater potentially seeking release or other market shake ups? I’d take Drinkwater no problem.

 

[redVinme]

Reports are that he will play 5/8th.
Hes a better fb then Holmes though and I was disappointed we didn't chase him before he moved.

 

[muzby]

Holmes’ arrival will force at least one out..

Not expected to be Drinkwater though..

 

[hewi]

Holmes’ arrival will force at least one out..

Not expected to be Drinkwater though..

And I’m sure it wouldn’t be to us.

 

[Forbes Creek Dragons]

And I’m sure it wouldn’t be to us.

A man can dream..

 

[cb4]

Reports are that he will play 5/8th.
Hes a better fb then Holmes though and I was disappointed we didn't chase him before he moved.

Based on what? Holmes last season he had 22 tries and 10 try assists as a Fullback.
Drinkwater is good but he isn't anywhere near Holmes for Talent.

 

[George Dragon]

Reports are that he will play 5/8th.
Hes a better fb then Holmes though and I was disappointed we didn't chase him before he moved.

Maybe we did chase him, maybe he called a mate for some info and maybe that mate told him how he was treated....

 

[TomRedVRiver]

Holmes' arrival will likely force Clifford out, with Drinkwater shifting to 5/8 i'd say. They won't release Morgan obviously.

Unless they look to their forwards.... Someone like Hess perhaps?

 

[redVinme]

Based on what? Holmes last season he had 22 tries and 10 try assists as a Fullback.
Drinkwater is good but he isn't anywhere near Holmes for Talent.

Well considering drinkwater moved mid season into a underperforming team I'd give him a full year. It's not just my opinion the Holmes isn't a fullback and I think cows will realise the same

 

[Forbes Creek Dragons]

Holmes' arrival will likely force Clifford out, with Drinkwater shifting to 5/8 i'd say. They won't release Morgan obviously.

Unless they look to their forwards.... Someone like Hess perhaps?

Clifford will be a good player in the future, just needs a decent coach like Mary.

 

[Wittenberg]

I wonder if the Holmes back to NRL rumours will have any bearing on maybe a Scott Drinkwater potentially seeking release or other market shake ups? I’d take Drinkwater no problem.

So would I. Has pace, ability and guts.

 

[redandwhite4evr]

So would I. Has pace, ability and guts.

If we are talking about Drinkwater as a full back, I'd like to know more. The position has probably changed more than any other position on the field in recent years and the skill set needed to be successful is starting to become clear.

One of those skills/attributes (among many ) to be a good full back is strength. Height is important too but height without strength is not enough. Billy Slater had it -Tedesco's got it as has Tinny Cuckoo Clock- strength through the hips so you can hold your ground and not get rag dolled and pushed back- and of course at the same time you can break tackles in attack.

Dufty didn't have it- nor did Field- of course they were lacking in other areas too (defence and high balls),

Dr Frankenstein- I have the prototype- just need the body parts now

 

[possm]

If we are talking about Drinkwater as a full back, I'd like to know more. The position has probably changed more than any other position on the field in recent years and the skill set needed to be successful is starting to become clear.

One of those skills/attributes (among many ) to be a good full back is strength. Height is important too but height without strength is not enough. Billy Slater had it -Tedesco's got it as has Tinny Cuckoo Clock- strength through the hips so you can hold your ground and not get rag dolled and pushed back- and of course at the same time you can break tackles in attack.

Dufty didn't have it- nor did Field- of course they were lacking in other areas too (defence and high balls),

Dr Frankenstein- I have the prototype- just need the body parts now

If Mary is going to stick with Aitken and Lafai as our centre pairing for 2020 - what a big mistake,- I suggest he selects Lomax at fullback and sticks with him there unless of course he really stuffs up. So, in that case our back 3 could be:
1. Lomax
2. Saab
5. Ravalawa, Pereira or Pearson

 

[Dragonslayer]

Interesting this debate about fullback, and who will play there for us in 2020.
But, what makes a good fullback?
Is it size ie: tall, or weight, or both?

Just some comparisons to fullbacks around the NRL (inc: Val Holmes before he went to NFL)

Drinkwater - 181 cm - 87kg's - 22yrs old
Papenhuyzen - 181 cm - 80kg's - 20yrs old
CNK - 182 cm - 94kg's - 24yrs old
DWZ - 186 cm - 97kg's - 24yrs old
T. Turbo - 194 cm - 102kg's - 23yrs old
Tedesco - 184 cm - 95kg's - 24yrs old
RTS - 182 cm - 96kg's - 26yrs old
Holmes - 185 cm - 90kg's - 24yrs old

Dufty - 179 cm - 83kg's - 23yrs old
Sailor - 177 cm - 80kg's - 21yrs old
Lomax - 190 cm - 94kg's - 20yrs old

From this, it can be seen that the weight side of things seem to have a significant bearing on a fullback, and this without compromising speed. CNK, DWZ, T.Turbo, Tedesco, RTS and Holmes all 90kg's or over, but still maintain their speed factor. This is the prototype fullback imo. Drinkwater is close enough given his age.
As for the Dragons: It currently looks like Lomax is our best option given his size and weight, however, he appears to not have the speed. Dufty looks like the boat has sailed on him (pardon the pun), and Sailor, whilst young enough, 10kg's on a small frame won't be any benefit to him imo.

We also have youngsters in Schiller and Ramsay coming through, yet are unknowns at this stage, particularly regarding height/weight ratios.

So, do we take a punt on Lomax for a year or 2, then move him to centre when the youngsters are ready, or do we go with Sailor in the hope he can maintain his speed whilst stacking on a few kg's?

Or, just go out and spend overs on another clubs reject?

 

[George Dragon]

Interesting this debate about fullback, and who will play there for us in 2020.
But, what makes a good fullback?
Is it size ie: tall, or weight, or both?

Just some comparisons to fullbacks around the NRL (inc: Val Holmes before he went to NFL)

Drinkwater - 181 cm - 87kg's - 22yrs old
Papenhuyzen - 181 cm - 80kg's - 20yrs old
CNK - 182 cm - 94kg's - 24yrs old
DWZ - 186 cm - 97kg's - 24yrs old
T. Turbo - 194 cm - 102kg's - 23yrs old
Tedesco - 184 cm - 95kg's - 24yrs old
RTS - 182 cm - 96kg's - 26yrs old
Holmes - 185 cm - 90kg's - 24yrs old

Dufty - 179 cm - 83kg's - 23yrs old
Sailor - 177 cm - 80kg's - 21yrs old
Lomax - 190 cm - 94kg's - 20yrs old

From this, it can be seen that the weight side of things seem to have a significant bearing on a fullback, and this without compromising speed. CNK, DWZ, T.Turbo, Tedesco, RTS and Holmes all 90kg's or over, but still maintain their speed factor. This is the prototype fullback imo. Drinkwater is close enough given his age.
As for the Dragons: It currently looks like Lomax is our best option given his size and weight, however, he appears to not have the speed. Dufty looks like the boat has sailed on him (pardon the pun), and Sailor, whilst young enough, 10kg's on a small frame won't be any benefit to him imo.

We also have youngsters in Schiller and Ramsay coming through, yet are unknowns at this stage, particularly regarding height/weight ratios.

So, do we take a punt on Lomax for a year or 2, then move him to centre when the youngsters are ready, or do we go with Sailor in the hope he can maintain his speed whilst stacking on a few kg's?

Or, just go out and spend overs on another clubs reject?

Just spoke to James 190 & 91.
Will ask Cody too.

 

[boardlumps62]

Interesting this debate about fullback, and who will play there for us in 2020.
But, what makes a good fullback?
Is it size ie: tall, or weight, or both?

Just some comparisons to fullbacks around the NRL (inc: Val Holmes before he went to NFL)

Drinkwater - 181 cm - 87kg's - 22yrs old
Papenhuyzen - 181 cm - 80kg's - 20yrs old
CNK - 182 cm - 94kg's - 24yrs old
DWZ - 186 cm - 97kg's - 24yrs old
T. Turbo - 194 cm - 102kg's - 23yrs old
Tedesco - 184 cm - 95kg's - 24yrs old
RTS - 182 cm - 96kg's - 26yrs old
Holmes - 185 cm - 90kg's - 24yrs old

Dufty - 179 cm - 83kg's - 23yrs old
Sailor - 177 cm - 80kg's - 21yrs old
Lomax - 190 cm - 94kg's - 20yrs old

From this, it can be seen that the weight side of things seem to have a significant bearing on a fullback, and this without compromising speed. CNK, DWZ, T.Turbo, Tedesco, RTS and Holmes all 90kg's or over, but still maintain their speed factor. This is the prototype fullback imo. Drinkwater is close enough given his age.
As for the Dragons: It currently looks like Lomax is our best option given his size and weight, however, he appears to not have the speed. Dufty looks like the boat has sailed on him (pardon the pun), and Sailor, whilst young enough, 10kg's on a small frame won't be any benefit to him imo.

We also have youngsters in Schiller and Ramsay coming through, yet are unknowns at this stage, particularly regarding height/weight ratios.

So, do we take a punt on Lomax for a year or 2, then move him to centre when the youngsters are ready, or do we go with Sailor in the hope he can maintain his speed whilst stacking on a few kg's?

Or, just go out and spend overs on another clubs reject?

Don't see any of the mentioned Dragons being our fullback unless Sailor has a growth spurt. We need one 2020 so we have to buy one, unearth one amongst our lower graders or manufacture one I go for Pearson give him a go.