Discussion in 'Parramatta Eels' started by Tooooks, Mar 15, 2020.
There's a lot of assumptions in that post.
See I thought that @Hollywood Jesus was the only person who posts random unsupported claims.
I'm guessing that the immunity passport is just around the corner ?
HJ predicted house price falls in June last year. He may of gotten in right.
They did go up about 5-15%pending on suburb and all those gains have been wiped. I think another 10-20% fall could be on the cards
True he did. I mean who would have known that a recession would trigger a contraction in the market ? @Poupou Escobar I think we have found our genius.
Imperial College London...haha
Says the guy who gets his info from fringe dwellers on youtube.
Here is the link anyways. World Economic Forum.
“So the real scandal is: Why did anyone ever listen to this guy?”
Posted by Andrew on 8 May 2020, 9:27 am
John Fund writes:
[Imperial College epidemiologist Neil] Ferguson was behind the disputed research that sparked the mass culling of eleven million sheep and cattle during the 2001 outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease. He also predicted that up to 150,000 people could die. There were fewer than 200 deaths. . . .
In 2002, Ferguson predicted that up to 50,000 people would likely die from exposure to BSE (mad cow disease) in beef. In the U.K., there were only 177 deaths from BSE.
In 2005, Ferguson predicted that up to 150 million people could be killed from bird flu. In the end, only 282 people died worldwide from the disease between 2003 and 2009.
In 2009, a government estimate, based on Ferguson’s advice, said a “reasonable worst-case scenario” was that the swine flu would lead to 65,000 British deaths. In the end, swine flu killed 457 people in the U.K.
Last March, Ferguson admitted that his Imperial College model of the COVID-19 disease was based on undocumented, 13-year-old computer code that was intended to be used for a feared influenza pandemic, rather than a coronavirus. Ferguson declined to release his original code so other scientists could check his results. He only released a heavily revised set of code last week, after a six-week delay.
So the real scandal is: Why did anyone ever listen to this guy?
That's a post on a forum. You are just regurgitating opinions that give your unconscious bias a woody.
The Key to Defeating COVID-19 Already Exists. We Need to Start Using It | Opinion
Do not use hydroxychloroquine for COVID: National Taskforce
7 August 2020
Associate Professor Julian Elliott, Executive Director of the National COVID-19 Clinical Evidence Taskforce, said the evidence indicates hydroxychloroquine is potentially harmful and no more effective than standard care in treating patients with COVID-19.
‘We have reviewed all the scientific data around hydroxychloroquine and we can now say, definitively, that hydroxychloroquine should not be used as a treatment for anyone with COVID-19,’ he said.
‘There is now sufficient data for us to make a very clear and strong recommendation. In this instance, that is based on data from randomised controlled trials that enrolled nearly 6000 patients.
‘This is a substantial amount of very high-quality scientific data upon which we’ve based the recommendation.
‘The pooled results show the drug does not reduce mortality, or shorten the amount of time a sick person spends in hospital. It also exposes them to side effects including cardiac toxicity.’
The taskforce, of which the RACGP is a member, also warned against the use of hydroxychloroquine for post-exposure prophylaxis but said it may still be considered in the context of randomised trials with appropriate ethical approval, such as combination therapies that include hydroxychloroquine.
Hydroxychloroquine was one of the first drugs touted as a potential treatment for COVID-19, after a small French clinical trial, run by a highly respected microbiologist, produced seemingly promising results shortly after the virus appeared in Europe.
These results were seized on by many, including world leaders Donald Trump and Jair Bolsonaro, following claims of a ‘100% cure rate’. The widespread promotion led to hoarding and shortages of the medication, which is critical for treating rheumatoid arthritis, mild systemic and discoid lupus erythematosus, or the suppression and treatment of malaria.
Australian billionaire Clive Palmer also purchased nearly 33 million doses of the drug and took out three-page advertisements in newspapers across the country labelling it the ‘best hope’ for people infected with coronavirus.
However, questions were soon raised regarding the design of the original trial and the drug’s claimed efficacy, after it was revealed four of the patients who received the medication still ended up either dead or in intensive care, but were excluded from the final paper.
Despite this revelation, debate regarding the continued use of the anti-malaria drug continued, especially after The Lancet published – then retracted – a major study that claimed coronavirus patients taking the drug were at higher risk of death and heart problems than those who were not.
Other further studies also indicated a lack of efficacy, but trials continued – including in Australia – and some were reported to show positive results.
This led to accusations of politicisation of hydroxychlroquine, and as recently as last week Australian Federal Liberal MP Craig Kelly stated Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews could be ‘jailed for 25 years’ for blocking the use of the drug.
Meanwhile, thousands of illegally imported doses have been intercepted by Australian Border Force and Mr Palmer is continuing to promote its use as a COVID-19 treatment, even challenging Western Australia’s hard border closure in the High Court in a reported effort to spruik the drug in person.
But regardless of the outcome of the proposed trial, the taskforce’s new recommendation would appear to indicate the use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 will only continue in Australia in very specific circumstances.
‘For people exposed to individuals with COVID-19, only administer hydroxychloroquine for post-exposure prophylaxis in the context of randomised trials with appropriate ethical approval,’ a taskforce release stated.
‘There are ongoing prevention trials investigating the use of hydroxychloroquine to reduce the risk of contracting COVID-19, and the taskforce will continue to review these data as soon as they become available.’
In announcing the recommendation, Associate Professor Elliott said it is important to remember that there are already effective treatments available for people with COVID-19.
‘Just last week, the Taskforce strengthened its recommendation for the use of dexamethasone – an inexpensive, widely available steroid that has been shown to reduce the risk of death by 14% in patients requiring oxygen and 29% in ventilated patients,’ he said.
‘We also know that antiviral drug remdesivir has been shown to reduce the time to recovery for moderate or severe cases of COVID-19.
‘Australians should be reassured that our leading expert panels are reviewing new research every week to provide evidence-based guidance to clinicians on the frontline.’
RACGP = Royal Australian College of General Practitioners (RACGP)
Just before merkins fire up with a conspiracy theory about big pharma driving a campaign against HCL, AU doctors ^^^^ are promoting the use of an inexpensive regime.
We where not in recession when HJ predicted it.
The coronavirus is what caused the crash. HJ may have had inside information.
No crash mate. The market is trundling along.
A cynic might suggest that they're happy to promote a cheap drug when it really isn't very effective and won't get in the way of vaccine sales. Not me though.
Or you could grow some balls and just lay all your conspiracy theories out on the table and stand by them with conviction.
He should stick to his Keto videos. Or not.
How come a merkin who is schooled in chemical engineering, thinks he can give medical advice on the internet ?
On the basis that Youtube is all about the facts - Ivor Cummins is Funded by Fast Food Industry
Stop attempting to play the man. He's not giving medical advice but assessing data. And he's no schill for McDonald's.
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