Seasons 2020 + 2021 COVID-19 discussion thread

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  1. I'm a loser baby...

    I'm a loser baby... Immortal

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    I'm catching up.
     
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  2. Gary Gutful

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    It’s your shout Merkin!
     
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  3. strider

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    I miht also point out that the example you have identified pretty much has a job where you would expect her entire existence SHOULD revolve around discussing such things and researching with others ...... whereas I was specifically asking if most doctors research alot
     
  4. I'm a loser baby...

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    Then do it another 30,000 or so times...

    Signatures
    current signature count
    concerned citizens
    561,818
    medical & public health scientists
    10,997
    medical practitioners
    30,684

    https://gbdeclaration.org/view-signatures/
     
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  5. strider

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    Actually, I am watching IALB's little Irish mate's video .... and he says something at one point which I believe is spot on - basically that every time something unusual happens with a case of covid, it gets emphasised and blown up to a large scale to try and make some point to emphasise how bad things are, whereas its not the norm
     
  6. Happy MEel

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    To be fair, I could sign that declaration as a medical practitioner or public health scientist simply by checking a box.




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  7. I'm a loser baby...

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    Nah, they're going through them since people who want to discredit them started adding fake signatures.
     
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  8. Hollywood Jesus

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    Or that it coincidentally smashed the world in a US election year when the farce of an impeachment trial gasped its inevitable final breath.

    Don't forget that this thing came from a lab.
     
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  9. Gronk

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  10. Gronk

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    People who are found to be + are assigned case workers and are monitored daily. Those who deteriorate are admitted to hospital. GPs are not involved. So treatments are only administered by hospitals and they tend not to go rogue.


    Treatments
    The Australian Government is monitoring worldwide research into treatments of COVID-19. Along with states and territories, the Government is using best available evidence in its approach to COVID-19 treatments to keep Australians safe.

    COVID-19 is a virus, therefore traditional antibiotics will not work. Several treatments are being explored to determine their value in treating COVID-19.

    Remdesivir

    Studies show remdesivir, an antiviral drug, can help very sick adults and young people get out of hospital sooner. People who take remdesivir while hospitalised with COVID-19 appear to improve faster than those not given the medication.

    In Australia, remdesivir now has temporary approval for use from the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA). This includes very sick people in hospital who need oxygen or more help to breathe.

    Corticosteroids

    There is growing evidence that a corticosteroid called dexamethasone lowers the risk of death for some people with COVID-19. This includes people who are very sick and need oxygen or are on a ventilator.

    Ivermectin, doxycycline, zinc

    There is currently not enough evidence to show that ivermectin, doxycycline or zinc (together or separately), is safe or effective to prevent or treat COVID-19. Research into the potential of ivermectin as a treatment option, is underway in Australia and overseas.

    Hydroxychloroquine

    Based on the current available evidence, hydroxychloroquine is not recommended to treat COVID-19.

    Various human trials are underway due to interest in this medication as a means to treat COVID-19. To date, there isn’t any evidence of a clinical benefit from prescribing hydroxychloroquine to treat or prevent COVID-19.

    Learn more about the limits on prescribing hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19.

    Limits on medications

    Many Australians need medication to manage their health. Medication shortages can threaten lives.

    To ensure everyone has access to the medications they need, pharmacies must limit sales of some prescription and over the counter medications.

    Learn more about limits on prescription and over-the-counter medications.

    Off-label use

    Off-label use refers to medication used outside the uses approved by the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA). The approved uses of a medicine are set out in the Product Information (PI).

    Although the TGA may approve a medicine to treat a certain condition, it may not be safe to treat another condition ‘off-label’.

    Doctors who prescribe medicines off-label take into account the potential risks and benefits for patients with informed consent.

    Prescribing medicine for ‘off-label’ use to prevent or treat COVID-19 is not recommended.


    Last updated:
    22 October 2020

    https://www.health.gov.au/news/heal...019-ncov-health-alert/vaccines-and-treatments
     
  11. strider

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    cool reference ... but its nothing about what I asked .... infact it probably confirms what I said - its just the script the vast majority of doctors just read from

    lets even ignore GPs (though they are still potentially people in the profession who should be able to have an opinion if they want to put the effort in) .... you reckon those treating people in the hospital are researching? Or are they just concentrating on following what they have been told is the recommended thing to do?
     
  12. Soren Lorenson

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    Don't you merkins have to get ready for work?
     
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  13. strider

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    I'm on holidays!! ... plus there is no need to get ready any more - my workplace is 5 steps away these days
     
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  14. hindy111

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    I saw my doctor google my symptoms once.
     
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    Unreasonable amount
     
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    Where are you off too?. I haven't had a holiday in 5yrs (not counting the van down sth coast)
     
  17. hindy111

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    Maye I dot even trust the swab thing. I heard it touches your brain. Could be microchipping or a trial.
     
  18. strider

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    same ... my doctor wasn't available once and the other doctor i saw did a google search .... i don't think it was the worst thing ever, but it surprised me
     
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  19. strider

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    why doesn't the van down the south coast count? Of course thats a holiday .... i went to canberra - got back yesterday evening ... canberra is very nice but bugger me I got bad hay fever
     
  20. Gronk

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    Well development in treatments would never evolve if not for trials of new regimes, however if you know how hospitals work ward drs are under a hierarchy of medical skills. There is always cross consultation in hospitals.

    *senior consultants – specialist doctors who see patients at specific times
    *registrars – senior doctors who supervise residents, interns and students
    *residents – look after patients on the ward and are in training for specialisation
    *interns – have completed their studies and are now finishing their final year in hospital
    *student doctors – undergraduate medical students.
     

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