It’s pretty obvious what I am suggesting (not arguing) and I am actually trying to better understand what you have raised.
So let me see if I understand what your issue is. Is it testing?
So we need to test every Dr that visits a patient and every person that goes to a cafe and if the test proves they are OK then happy days?
What do you propose we do about the injustices that you’ve raised?
i give it max 6 months before the passports are irrelevant. The apathy will set in and people wont bother checking them (just as they dont check if you QR in at 99% of places anymore in QLD) and there will be that many bogus/fraudulent passports that it will be a nightmare to manage.Vaccine passports will last as long as it takes to get on top of the pandemic. It won't last for ever (bold unsourced unconfident statement), so those who do not have access to the local Thai resturant will just have to make do with take away. Pretty much what we're all doing now.
Is every 3 days enough?Some People are testing every 3 days to leave their lga for work, and some of these workers are deemed essential. Yet they’ll be denied access to the most basic of freedoms because they won’t jab at this stage.
My neighbour in my building here in the city is a surgeon. He likes fly fishing. He said that being unvaccinated is like going out fishing in a storm and getting drenched. Being vaccinated is like going out in a storm with your waist-high waders, hat, gumboots and gloves. He said you might still get a little wet, but it won't be enough to bother most people.
The underlying motive for most people getting it is a return to some level of normality.
Stands to reason that those people will be looking to enjoy their lives once restrictions are lifted.
But there is always a risk I guess. Even vaccinated merkins can get sick and die.
So, after all the argy-bargy and hyperbole, here's my take. A time will come when we open up to some form of normality. If I'm in a social gathering with 12 other merkins (6 vaxxed, 6 unvaxxed), I'm not going to be bothered if none, some, or all have the 'rona. I'm as likely to catch it anywhere, I won't be any worse off if I get it from an unvaxxed merkin or a vaxxed merkin. I've had my shots, the rest is a lottery.
i give it max 6 months before the passports are irrelevant. The apathy will set in and people wont bother checking them (just as they dont check if you QR in at 99% of places anymore in QLD) and there will be that many bogus/fraudulent passports that it will be a nightmare to manage.
Other countries are already getting rid of them, we're just a few months behind
Is every 3 days enough?
You can quickly become infectious the following day after a test.
You’re happy to accept that risk? Surely we can agree that it’s not without risk?
Also very f**ken hard to check compared to whether someone is vaccinated.
You’d be happy to submit to regular (I.e virtually daily) testing if it meant you could get a coffee?
Or would you consider that overreach?
Again, not arguing just trying to understand your position but to me it seems highly inefficient.
The Govt will back down on mandates for restaurants, sports, concerts as quickly as it is implemented. I give it 6 weeks maximum.
Businesses can't/won't manage that process - it's costly to implement, a pain in the ass operationally to stay on top of, and the risk of arguments/violence too high.
Barillaro basically admitted the other day that at 80% they'll just let everyone do what they want for the most part. They wont come out and unequivocally say that now - as they know that will put a speed bump in the vax rates, as the only reason many people are allowing themselves to be coerced into getting the jab is because the govt makes them believe they'll be an outcast from society. As soon as the narrative turns to one of truth, the ass will fall out of vax numbers, so they going hard for all its worth from now until "Freedom (Segregation) Day, and then shortly after, the mandates will disappear (aside from critical care/quarantine workers etc).
Sure some business may choose to move forward with a vax only customer policy - but it wont last when they start losing market share. When the government is no longer stipulating that you can only let certain people into your business, but you choose to continue to enforce restrictions on certain groups in society - the only outcome is a backlash and a hit to the hip pocket.