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Sevens at the olympics

Te Kaha

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On the verge of how a sevens comp should be run...

Not bad for a "dying" game.

From the people at Stuff

Olympic push for sevens
05 February 2004
By TOBY ROBSON

New Zealand's sevens team could be playing for Olympic medals as early as 2012, but only if more countries can emerge as genuine title contenders.


"The biggest issue for sevens right now is really to push hard for sevens to be included in the Olympics," IRB sevens manager Mark Egan said yesterday.

"If all goes to plan we would like to think sevens could be included in 2012."

That could see sevens spread to new horizons: with Havana, Istanbul, Leipzig, London, Madrid, Moscow, New York, Paris and Rio de Janeiro the nine cities bidding for the Olympics in 2012.

But Egan said the International Olympic Committee would need to be convinced sooner rather than later.

The IOC meets in Singapore in 2005 when it will vote on which sports, if any, will be added to the Games.

"We continue to lobby them in a positive way.

"A lot of the IOC members have attended sevens tournaments now and seen it played.

"IOC president Jacques Rogge said at the Rugby World Cup in Sydney last year that he would like to see sevens at the Games."

Rogge played 10 rugby tests for Belgium, but does not vote at the general assembly.

But Egan said making the series more competitive was the key.

"At the moment you see England, New Zealand, South Africa and maybe Fiji always there at the top.

"That's why we are trying to develop the satellite tours and as time goes on other teams will become more competitive. That's not going to happen overnight."

After trimming the series from 11 to eight tournaments Egan said the IRB was satisfied sevens could now grow in terms of coverage and popularity.

Fox Sports was televising the first North American tournament in Los Angeles on February 14 and February 15 live to 25 million viewers for four hours each day and showing highlights packages of the others.

The first tournament of the 2003-04 series in Dubai saw crowds rise to 23,000, up 6000 on the previous year.
 

Dr Crane

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Sevens is a disgraceful form of Union.

I can't stand the sickly procession of trys. Give me the 80 minute, 15 man game any day.
 

Te Kaha

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Well they wanted upsets and making it more competitive

From Stuff again .....

NZ to face darlings of Wellington sevens
07 February 2004

New Zealand will face rugby sevens show stoppers Kenya in the quarterfinals of the Wellington tournament today following an opening day marked by two classic upsets.


The defending champions escaped the fate that befell other Southern Hemisphere powers South Africa and Australia at the International Rugby Board tournament.

New Zealand advanced unbeaten through their pool, including an important 21-7 win over Samoa in the final game of an entertaining day at Westpac Stadium.

Following easy wins over Korea 47-7 and Niue 33-0, the New Zealanders were pushed close by the Samoans in a match the home side had to win to avoid a quarterfinal against England today.

A loose pass inside Samoa's own in-goal area was pounced on by captain Matua Parkinson to give New Zealand a 14-7 lead seconds before halftime.

Earlier, a neat Parkinson sidestep set up their first try to Craig de Goldi after Samoa had opened the match with a try to Fa'atonu Fili.

Liam Messam sealed the result when he scored under the crossbar with three minutes remaining, helping make up for the yellow card Messam had received in each of New Zealand's earlier games.

Kenya were the darlings of a colourful, 30,000-strong crowd courtesy of their 29-21 upset win over Australia.

It was enough to earn them second place in the pool when the disappointing Australians suffered another loss, 17-26 to unbeaten England, the result a mini-repeat of the World Cup 15-a-side final last November.

The English are to face Samoa in today's quarterfinals.

Highly-fancied South Africa suffered their first-ever sevens loss to Tonga, 12-15.

However, unlike Australia, they live to fight another day after bouncing back in scintillating style with a 50-0 win over Argentina to top pool C on points differential.

Tonga scraped into second place ahead of Argentina.

At their best, the speedy South Africans appeared the best team here.

New Zealand played to a consistently high level, along with Fiji, although it appeared England were saving their best for today.

Fiji were never stretched in pool D, accounting easily for Canada and the Cook Islands.

France's form looked good enough to stretch the Fijians but the island nation were always in control of their 26-12 win.

Fiji are to play an all-Pacific quarterfinal against Tonga today while South Africa are to face France, with the winners of that match to play New Zealand – if the hosts could stop the Kenyan roll.
 

ozbash

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southern warrior said:
Team sports shouldint be at the Olympics.

what, like soccer,badminton,rowing,athletics, yachting,netball, ??

bring on the 7,s i reckon.

TK, i will be looking for a place to stay next year in welly,, that was incredible...
 

dimitri

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7s does not belong at the olympics

it is a subform of the game not a sport

it fails to attract the best players

and is very boring
 

ozbash

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some would say AFL is a farcical game,, pretty popular though.

synchronised swim anyone ??? hmmmmm :clap:
 

SpaceMonkey

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dimitri said:
7s does not belong at the olympics

it is a subform of the game not a sport

it fails to attract the best players

and is very boring
Yeah but if it makes the Olympics watch all the top players from both League and Union put their hands up for selection. If either code is serious about exposure they will agree to make a combinerd effort on this.
 

bayrep

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What rules would they follow if you had a combined team of union and league playing at the olympics ?
 

JVinAZ

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Sorry guys,

if/when sevens is added to the Olympic program it will be a union event. The IRB is the only International Federation (IF) for the sport of rugby recognized by the IOC. While the IOC organizes the event, it is the IF's that conduct the competition and qualifications.

Likewise it will be union players in the Games. Just ask YANTO and the Netherlands Rugby League, the various national rugby unions, are generally recognized as the "official" rugby body because of the relationship of the IRB with the IOC. It is quite unlikely that any of the major unions will select players who are not part of their program.

The only possible exception I see is Lebanon. That nation has no union recognized by the IRB. However the IRB would be hard pressed not to allow any interested IOC recognized nation the chance to qualify for the big dance. Hasim al-Maadri in the Olympics, mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 

JVinAZ

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ripper73 said:
I reckon the best players would put there hands up if it was for olympics.

True, but open tryouts are not the norm for Olympic team sports. In the vast majority of cases, it is the national organization affiliated with the intenational Federation recognized by the IOC is allowed to select the team that plays.

It is unrealistic to expect that any of the prominant RU's will select any players outside of their organization.
 

ripper

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What I mean is that players like Joe Rocokoko, Spencer, Howlett e.c.t Would put there hands up for the NZ team if it was for the Olympics
 

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