Sharks cap superthread - latest: NRL clears Flanagan to assistant coach from 2020

[Diesel]

You can’t blame the nrl, it’s your own club losing money every game. If you really do need 16.5k avg to just break even you are back in strife already as that is incredibly unlikely with the current ground and historic level of fan base. Like said it’s up to the sharks fans, message is clear from your club “want to keep a club in the shire get off your backsides and buy a full membership”!

Playing at shitty times like Thursday night and Friday 6pm against their top drawing opposition isn’t doing any favours either

 

[franklin2323]

If you're going to use the catchment argument check the crowd Souths v Dragons on Thursday night.Two clubs with supposedly yeti biggest supporter base .Crowd!!! A tad over 10,000

Look at the Titan's catchment does that correlate to big crowds with a debt stadium? negatorie big brother.

My view is play one Sharks game in. Adelaide ,which should be on the money positive side.Interstate teams don't bring in crowds.

I'd handle one Shark's game at a new Allianz Stadium provided it was a 3pm Sunday shebang, with the likes of say Parramatta.
But at least 10 home games at Sharks Park. 9 at a pinch. If it meant the club either broke even or went into the black re game days.

This should be the plan for all teams. Sell 2 games off gives games in non traditional markets to grow.

Panthers get $300k from 1 Bathurst game. Short sponsor came on board due to it. As well as new members.

Less games in Sydney shuts the whingers up too

 

[bad boy bubby]

You can’t blame the nrl, it’s your own club losing money every game. If you really do need 16.5k avg to just break even you are back in strife already as that is incredibly unlikely with the current ground and historic level of fan base. Like said it’s up to the sharks fans, message is clear from your club “want to keep a club in the shire get off your backsides and buy a full membership”!

It came to light yesterday that the need for that size crowd is because of the lack of sponsorship dollars for spending on the football team.
Basically a $1M (Or More?) dollar growth of sponsorship money and we aren't having this conversation. Or the football club cuts back that much on spending.
It was a very broad statement by the Chairman which I, and many others, took the wrong way.

 

[Quicksilver]

You can’t blame the nrl, it’s your own club losing money every game. If you really do need 16.5k avg to just break even you are back in strife already as that is incredibly unlikely with the current ground and historic level of fan base. Like said it’s up to the sharks fans, message is clear from your club “want to keep a club in the shire get off your backsides and buy a full membership”!

When they push for centralised stadium plan over every other stadium, yes I can

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

If you're going to use the catchment argument check the crowd Souths v Dragons on Thursday night.Two clubs with supposedly among the biggest supporter bases .Crowd!!! A tad over 10,000

Look at the Titan's catchment does that correlate to big crowds with a decent stadium? negatorie big brother.

I think you misunderstood. Im saying the "Catchment" idea is what is killing the suburban clubs. Your right that Saints-Souths was a shit crowd, thats what you get when you play in the suburbs and only try to draw from the "catchment".

The only way to boost crowds is modern (well funded) stadiums in accessable locations (not just accessable in the catchment, accessable from all over the city).

If you are able to convince the gov to fund a new stadium for every suburb and better transport likes to each, then we dont have a problem. But 40 years of gov decisions and some very clear statements about only fundng central stadiums shows suburban grounds are NOT going to get the upgrades they need.

The only way to get gov funding is to get 3/4 teams together committed to playing out of one ground (WSS has Eels, Wanderers and a bunch of small commitments from Souths, Dogs, Tigers. SFS has Roosters, SydFC, Tahs,).

Suburban grounds do not draw crowds and they will not get funding. The teams on the Sydney fringes need to join an existing stadium or get a bunch of teams to commit to a new stadium a their home.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

When they push for centralised stadium plan over every other stadium, yes I can

Do you epect the ARLC to hand you cash for an upgrade?

 

[Perth Red]

Playing at shitty times like Thursday night and Friday 6pm against their top drawing opposition isn’t doing any favours either

Clubs wanted $13.4million NRL grant, this is the price you pay for bending over for the TV $'s.

 

[Perth Red]

It came to light yesterday that the need for that size crowd is because of the lack of sponsorship dollars for spending on the football team.
Basically a $1M (Or More?) dollar growth of sponsorship money and we aren't having this conversation. Or the football club cuts back that much on spending.
It was a very broad statement by the Chairman which I, and many others, took the wrong way.

That's not what he said.
Your deficit last year was significantly more than that if he is just talking about overall revenue v expenditure - profit/loss.

 

[Nealo 12]

So Flanno had no clue of the third party payments being legal so asked if they were ratified by the NRL mmmm yeah not guilty your honour

 

[taipan]

I think you misunderstood. Im saying the "Catchment" idea is what is killing the suburban clubs. Your right that Saints-Souths was a shit crowd, thats what you get when you play in the suburbs and only try to draw from the "catchment".

The only way to boost crowds is modern (well funded) stadiums in accessable locations (not just accessable in the catchment, accessable from all over the city).

If you are able to convince the gov to fund a new stadium for every suburb and better transport likes to each, then we dont have a problem. But 40 years of gov decisions and some very clear statements about only fundng central stadiums shows suburban grounds are NOT going to get the upgrades they need.

The only way to get gov funding is to get 3/4 teams together committed to playing out of one ground (WSS has Eels, Wanderers and a bunch of small commitments from Souths, Dogs, Tigers. SFS has Roosters, SydFC, Tahs,).

Suburban grounds do not draw crowds and they will not get funding. The teams on the Sydney fringes need to join an existing stadium or get a bunch of teams to commit to a new stadium a their home.

Thursday night at a new SFS yes.Thursday night at ANZ no.You forget the family issue when it comes to centralisation on week nights and early Fridays in Sydney.
You see I look at the dogs at ANZ and the roosters at the SFS both central stadiums ATM, yes dated, but the crowds are not up to scratch.Sop the catchment issue is relevant in that regard.

You hit the email with the description "ACCESSABLE" .That means reliable transport infrastructure direct to or near the stadium, that means also times that encourages bigger crowds.Get those latter sorted out ,and centralised modern stadiums in Sydney spread like a smashed tomato, would be near the mark.

 

[Dragon Slayer]

So Flanno had no clue of the third party payments being legal so asked if they were ratified by the NRL mmmm yeah not guilty your honour

When is your Club putting out the next home movie?

The last one rated through the roof!

Made the paper!

 

[Generalzod]

When is your Club putting out the next home movie?

The last one rated through the roof!

Made the paper!

Who does Penrith lol

 

[Dragon Slayer]

Who does Penrith lol

Hoping the next one has different cast members.

Gotta spread the love!

 

[selkirk]

So who did the Sharks lose in their top 30?
Must have missed it

 

[Miller was a legend]

So who did the Sharks lose in their top 30?
Must have missed it

Segeyaro not registered. Have until 30 June to sort out next. Probably Ava, then bring Segeyaro in.

 

[siv]

Clubs wanted $13.4million NRL grant, this is the price you pay for bending over for the TV $'s.

But then people shouldnt complain when fans choose to watch games on TV rather than attending in person because they are no longer played on the traditional weekend timeslot

As it is no longer worth the hassle or impact to school and work to attend. Not to ment having to pay $60-70 for a halfway line seat with poor quality pre game fixtures or entertainment

 

[selkirk]

So 75% of his wage will already be on the salary cap when he leaves. Surely they cannot get under with only his wage

 

[Quicksilver]

So 75% of his wage will already be on the salary cap when he leaves. Surely they cannot get under with only his wage

They were already under the normal cap.

They just need to reduce the spend down from whatever they were already under the cap to the naughty boy cap level.

 

[Generalzod]

Lot of experts in here...

 

[txta2]

Yeah but your dealing with Cronulla, they will fk it up somehow.