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Sharks to do 'everything possible' to get rid of Ando

Rastawookie

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Anderson under fire on all fronts

By Danny Weidler
October 5, 2003
The Sun-Herald

Sharks executives are expected to draft a third breach notice this week as they step up their efforts to remove coach Chris Anderson.

The Sun-Herald has learned that the embattled coach has already received two warning letters from the board.

And in another major development he is poised to be replaced as Australia's coach, most likely by Ricky Stuart.

The situation at Cronulla will hot up this week after the drama that followed the sacking of Anderson's son, Jarrad.

The Sharks would have offloaded Anderson as coach some time ago but have not been able to pay him out. They believe a third breach notice will give them room to act.

It would cost the Sharks $1 million to remove him from the job without just cause - a payout they can't afford.

The ARL is also looking to replace Anderson as national coach, most likely after the Kangaroo tour.

During the week Anderson removed Greg Pierce, the son of Sharks president Barry Pierce, from the Australian coaching staff. He has also demoted long time assistant Theo Burgess.

Anderson's latest outburst, in which he allegedly called Sharks great and club CEO Steve Rogers a "low c---" and used similar language towards Barry Pierce, could bring him down as coach.

The Sharks will now do everything possible to make sure he will not be at the club next season.


Anderson last received a breach notice when he was fined for criticising referee Rod Lawrence.

Officials have told The Sun-Herald privately that they regret hiring him because, they say, he has ruined the fabric of the club.

Anderson imploded in a similar way when coach of Melbourne. On that occasion the fallout related to his other son, Ben.

Chris Anderson believes Jarrad learned he was sacked when his pay did not arrive. Sharks insiders say it was nothing more than a late payment. They say the decision to sack Jarrad was made on September 23 and he was told on September 26, after his father had been told.
 

cheese

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Rastawookie said:
Officials have told The Sun-Herald privately that they regret hiring him because, they say, he has ruined the fabric of the club.
Weidler's definitely got a direct line with someone on the board, and that gives me the sh!tes ......

Get rid of him by all means if they feel its in the best interest of the football club, but all this whispering to gossip journo's is a sign of incompetence if you ask me.....

Clean the lot of them out..............sludge can stay
 

wittyfan

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Rastawookie said:
Anderson's latest outburst, in which he allegedly called Sharks great and club CEO Steve Rogers a "low c---" and used similar language towards Barry Pierce, could bring him down as coach.


:roll: Lovely stuff Ando.
 

Feej

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missbelinda77 said:
The courtcase that would occur if he gets sacked would be more interesting than the Holly Valance one.
You better hope that we win then, because if we don't then Ando will more than likely go down as the last coach of the Sharks.
 

t-ba

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And if he doesn't leave...he might still be the last coach of the Sharks...

He's really got your balls in a vice. :lol: :lol:.
 
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sullyfan said:
Rastawookie said:
Anderson's latest outburst, in which he allegedly called Sharks great and club CEO Steve Rogers a "low c---" and used similar language towards Barry Pierce, could bring him down as coach.


:roll: Lovely stuff Ando.


All this is just an allegation that someone has leaked to our dear friend Weidler. It seems an "official" of the club believes it is more important to feed stories to gossip columnists than resolve issues professionally.

Still, it must be a great shock to us all to hear that people in footy use rude words every now and again when they're pissed off. :roll:

Anyway, if this does turn out to be true and they do find a way to force Opes out, let's hope that the board are walking out right behind him. :twisted:
 

The Popper

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IMO, ever since Gow was turfed out I can't really recall an issue that was handled with outstanding success.
It's very difficult to vote out members of the Board. A How To Vote `block vote' is used to support standing members of the clique. Most people would vote that way, even though they don't have to. It would take a very strong and united effort by a group of members to target one or two particular members of the board and replace them with their own candidates. This is where the `Block Vote' succeeds: most people who want to vote out sitting members generally select their own target which may differ from targets selected by others. Thus there is no consistency. The votes against are spread all over the shop and the sitting members generally still maintain enough votes to stay in power. And I think POWER is the operative word, when the word should be SERVICE.
Sorenson and O'Driscoll paid the price a year or two ago. Even Johnny Raper couldn't beat the Block Vote at Saints. It's a powerful tool used by those in POWER.
To gain a change, members need to be of 3 years standing and then must all unite and vote for the same new candidate AND against THE SAME sitting member to force a change on the Board. It's bloody near impossible, but it can be done.
 

PJ

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Spot on Popper.

Our only real hope is that there is a full board ticket against them.

And if they do get rid of Ando and he subsequently wins a court case I think the Directors would be very nervous about their own personal assets.
 
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Feej said:
missbelinda77 said:
The courtcase that would occur if he gets sacked would be more interesting than the Holly Valance one.
You better hope that we win then, because if we don't then Ando will more than likely go down as the last coach of the Sharks.

I was reading somewhere else, can't remember where exactly, about Barry Pierce talking to Danny Wiedler about an issue (not this one) and this sounds like something that would only come from the upper echelons of the club's hierarchy.

Sadly, I'd say you are right on the money Feej. If this story is true and the Sharks are trying to get rid of Anderson, then the club has had it. The subsequent unfair dismissal claim will cost the club a bomb and I'm sure that both Kimmorley and Bailey will leave the club as well if Anderson is pushed. Then there goes the coach and two of our key players. Chances of a premiership can then be forgotten and survival, both financially and in terms of the wooden spoon, will be the struggle in 2004.

I hope and pray that Wiedler's story turns out to be as much crap as a lot of the other stuff he has printed about the club (but I've got this sinking feeling in my guts that it's true).
 

Madsharkie

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Eskimo Sharkie said:
I hope and pray that Wiedler's story turns out to be as much crap as a lot of the other stuff he has printed about the club (but I've got this sinking feeling in my guts that it's true).

The media never let the truth get in the way of a good story... :roll:
 

Feej

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Eskimo Sharkie said:
Feej said:
missbelinda77 said:
The courtcase that would occur if he gets sacked would be more interesting than the Holly Valance one.
You better hope that we win then, because if we don't then Ando will more than likely go down as the last coach of the Sharks.

I was reading somewhere else, can't remember where exactly, about Barry Pierce talking to Danny Wiedler about an issue (not this one) and this sounds like something that would only come from the upper echelons of the club's hierarchy.

Sadly, I'd say you are right on the money Feej. If this story is true and the Sharks are trying to get rid of Anderson, then the club has had it. The subsequent unfair dismissal claim will cost the club a bomb and I'm sure that both Kimmorley and Bailey will leave the club as well if Anderson is pushed. Then there goes the coach and two of our key players. Chances of a premiership can then be forgotten and survival, both financially and in terms of the wooden spoon, will be the struggle in 2004.

I hope and pray that Wiedler's story turns out to be as much crap as a lot of the other stuff he has printed about the club (but I've got this sinking feeling in my guts that it's true).
I have this awful feeling of dread and "begining of the end" feelings inside me at the moment.

I just hope I'm wrong.
 

bull shark

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Eskimo Sharkie said:
Feej said:
missbelinda77 said:
The courtcase that would occur if he gets sacked would be more interesting than the Holly Valance one.
You better hope that we win then, because if we don't then Ando will more than likely go down as the last coach of the Sharks.

I was reading somewhere else, can't remember where exactly, about Barry Pierce talking to Danny Wiedler about an issue (not this one) and this sounds like something that would only come from the upper echelons of the club's hierarchy.

Sadly, I'd say you are right on the money Feej. If this story is true and the Sharks are trying to get rid of Anderson, then the club has had it. The subsequent unfair dismissal claim will cost the club a bomb and I'm sure that both Kimmorley and Bailey will leave the club as well if Anderson is pushed. Then there goes the coach and two of our key players. Chances of a premiership can then be forgotten and survival, both financially and in terms of the wooden spoon, will be the struggle in 2004.

I hope and pray that Wiedler's story turns out to be as much crap as a lot of the other stuff he has printed about the club (but I've got this sinking feeling in my guts that it's true).

It's blindingly obvious that they will not "just sack him" for all the reasons given above.

However, I read last week (couldn't find it just now) that Ando had been served with his third 'breach notice'. The article said that the first notice was for having a go at some referee and the third one was for something to do with the JA fiasco.

The thing is that after a sufficient number of breach notices (and 3 or 4 would do it) he can be deemed to have legally breached his contract. This means that the club could sever ties with him w/o having to sack him - he's legally sacked the club. No unfair dismissal (because of the requisite number of breach notices), no financial come-back and maybe even the get-out clauses could be irrelevant since he would have effectively walked. Of course, a court case would ensue but CA's position would be significanlty weaker than if they "just sacked him".

On the get-out clauses:
Bailey would be snapped up.
But would BK? He does shine under CA (despite what BTR says) but he doesn't seem to be very good under any other coach. Given that this is CA's last coaching job (surely we all agree on that) if BK decided to spit the dummy because CA was sacked would anyone else want him?
 

PJ

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One quick point that Ando will probably bring up.

He was issued a letter for abusing a ref and the fine that brought.

In my understanding if Rogers was not also issued a letter, I'm pretty sure that he has also been fined by the NRL for comments, then he will claim prejudice.
 

dimitri

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why dont you guys just move to the gold coast and get phil economidis to coach you
 
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dimitri said:
why dont you guys just move to the gold coast and get phil economidis to coach you

why dont you guys just move to illawarra and get andrew farrar to coach you

oh wait
you already did

a "home game" 70 kilometres away, it's just not the same is it?
 

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