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Something Must Be Done.

TomRedVRiver

Bench
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3,693
Okay, I have a few things to vent about our season so far so apologies in advance...

Attack - Non existent. I'm not really sure what we're doing with our attack this year and to be honest with you i'm not even sure the players know what they're doing either. When you look at clubs like Melbourne or Canberra they are ALL deep, running onto the ball at speed. They know their plays, they've got them nailed and all players are communicating efficiently and effectively. If you watch our structures, we look SO flat. Nobody is running onto the ball, no-one is running to the line and it's giving the defence enough time to slide and pick us off easily. The players don't look comfortable with the plays either. 4 out of 5 plays close to the line is a forward hitting it up, there's no creativity, and even when we try and spread it, the play is either defused by a sloppy pass or there's no depth. It's maddening, and it NEVER changes. When you look at our backline there's actually some skill and speed there now with our centres and players like Frizell and Thompson on the edges, but that's not translating into points because the players aren't gelling and don't seem comfortable. And for f**k sake can somebody please tell McGregor to stop using Jack De Belin as a halfback and just let him have a dig at the line.
We're also missing a ball-playing fullback. Dugan is awesome, we can all admit that, but the top teams all have that ball-playing element at the back and it just provides so much more than a damaging running fullback. So many times we could have created an overlap in spread plays if Dugan knew how to pass, but didn't.

Defence - We're giving away too many metres in the middle. We are susceptible to an offload which is what teams have picked up on. Big forward packs tend to dominate us and so do skilful forward packs who hit-up in pairs and throw an offload to pick up more metres. Our defence on the line can be quite good, we've actually got some heavy hitters in the middle and on the edges, but through the middle third we just leak too many metres. The players heads tend to go down when they're trailing as well. If momentum shifts (which I admit is hard to get back), we have no answer. Points tend to pile up on us when things aren't going our way, there's no fight back and no heart. This is an attitude thing I believe which leads back to the coach.

Coaching - Paul McGregor is not a first grade standard coach. He seems to consistently shift blame onto others when things go wrong and he doesn't seem to be getting the best out of his players. As much as it pains me to say this, players like Euan Aitken, Jack De Belin, Gareth Widdop and Tyson Frizell would all EXCEL at other clubs. We seem to be the team that everyone thinks player's development goes to die, and you know what, that's not too far from the truth lately. Our attacking structures are flat and predictable and not only that, they're not changing at all. Our defence in the middle third is sloppy and nobody is working for each other.
Our Board will deny it, but it's obvious that they're a jobs for the boys kind of Board. With McGregor, Head, Hornby and Young all picking up jobs. Yes sure, Head is doing well with the 20s, but you have to admit a lot of you probably rolled your eyes when you heard he got the job, and it's important to note that our 20s team this year is very good roster. We need a COMPLETE overhaul, Board and Coaching staff. If we can somehow pick up Ivan Cleary and just let him bring in his staff and do his thing, it will honestly be the best thing that has happened to this club.

Nothing has changed all year, nothing. We have glimpses of what this team can be but it's never consistent, we can never back it up. Some big decisions need to be made next year and I fear those in charge don't have the balls or the intelligence to make them. So for now, it's been real guys. See you next year.
 

Slippery Morris

First Grade
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You think the attack sucked today and not defence? WOW. There was no attack because most of the time Saints were in their half. Roosters forwards making over 50mtrs a set Saints lucky to make 30. Nobody wanted to tackle today. Adsolute rubbish. Soft tries due to poor defense.
 

Slippery Morris

First Grade
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8,103
In attack close to the line Rein 1st time in the game he kicks into the legs of Roosters. Then Widdop decides to run the last and slips. Top effort that was. Then it was all give the ball to Benji we are fu##$ed and let him cop the blame when we stuff up. He did set up the only try and got some repeats but geez it would be good if Widdop chipped in some time or Rein provided some good ball for once. So bloody predictable.
 

TomRedVRiver

Bench
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3,693
You think the attack sucked today and not defence? WOW. There was no attack because most of the time Saints were in their half. Roosters forwards making over 50mtrs a set Saints lucky to make 30. Nobody wanted to tackle today. Adsolute rubbish. Soft tries due to poor defense.

Slippery, I wasn't referring specifically to today, if you had of read the first sentence it was an analysis of the season so far. Yes, today our defence was awful, but if you also read what I said about defence if coincides with your argument about the Roosters making easy metres up the middle. I'm with you mate, don't worry.
 

Tuddy

Juniors
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403
Great points Tom. It's amazing it's all so clear to us (and I don't think we're off the mark) and seemingly so confounding to the board.

It seems to me as though there is just so much self interest at that level that the future of our club is less important than "looking after each other".
 

Slippery Morris

First Grade
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8,103
Sorry Tom. You nailed it, We are in dire straits and need some change ASAP. Personally I am not to fussed with the cattle it is the people not using them properly and to their strengths. They play like they have no confidence and that is because what they are made to do. I can see a coach coming in next season and all of a sudden get them to top 4. Just a matter of getting the right one. Can't get worse.
 

1st & 10

Juniors
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591
Unfortunately it's worse than just rubbish coaching staff and team, that can be fixed.
The issues stem further up the tree, Doust, board, culture and recruitment etc . Doust clearly thinks he is not accountable, which makes the issues at hand more serious and embedded.

Doust must be made to realise, the dragons are NOT his little "play thing" .

A fish rots from the head down.
 

John moz

Juniors
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1,194
The team ran out today playing in the away jersey last week red v this week no red v .The players from week to week dont know who they are we are the red v dragons so play in the red v .
 

Dea

Juniors
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2,484
I also think our team could play better but they will not whilst ever Mary remain pa the coach. Steady decline in performance since he took over. We can't endure another season of him at the helm.
 
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