Super Bowl 50: Carolina v Denver

[zombie jesus]

The season is almost over already, it goes by so quickly.

Old man Peyton is back in the big one, he's not the same QB he was last time but his supporting D is miles better and running hot.

Cam Newton continues the surge of young QBs in the SB following Russell Wilson and the false dawn of the Kaepernick/Harbaugh era.

Carolina will have too much for the Broncos to handle for 60 minutes.

Can't wait for Coldplay either.\\\\/

 

[legend]

Newton has all the assets to win but I have a SBXXXII feeling about this one for some reason. Will be wearing my new Derek Wolfe jersey just for this occasion.

 

[Sans Souci Sainter]

Panthers got dis.

I wonder what odds on Manning conceding a safety for for first score of the game again?

 

[Firey_Dragon]

It'll be a very interesting Superbowl, Panthers look amazing at the moment, but I don't think they've really played any great teams either.

Seahawks and Cardinals were both pretty ordinary against them and their draw has included Bucs, Falcons, Giants, Saints, Cowboys, Redskins, Titans, Jaguars, Eagles and Packers... Not exactly teams who set the world on fire this season. It's pretty hard to get a read on them with the draw they've had. That's not to detract from anything they've done this season, but whilst there have been some really good top teams in the NFC this season, the AFC has been stronger overall IMO.

Broncos will bring a lot more pressure than they've faced all season on defence and the Panthers have given up good yardage generally when coming up against good passing QB's (Packers, Colts, Saints and Giants come to mind).

Cam is playing great football at the moment though, but I'd back the Broncos defence to shut down their receivers... Olsen is always a threat, but he's not at Gronkowski's level.

 

[nick87]

I agree with Dan Hanzus on ATL

This just seems like a coronation game for Cam. We've seen this before, we've seen Manning try and move the ball on a defense that is built to eat up the small, dink and dunk shit where you're only real chance it to get them medium to deep

He can't make those medium to deep throws consistently

Granted he didn't have THIS defense last time, but I'm not sure this Defense is ready to take on Cam in the run game either

This reminds me so much of that Denver - Seattle game. And I'm kind of expecting the same kind of result? Though the Broncos defense will keep it tighter this time

I'm saying:
Carolina 34
Denver 16

 

[Firey_Dragon]

I agree with Dan Hanzus on ATL

This just seems like a coronation game for Cam. We've seen this before, we've seen Manning try and move the ball on a defense that is built to eat up the small, dink and dunk shit where you're only real chance it to get them medium to deep

He can't make those medium to deep throws consistently

Granted he didn't have THIS defense last time, but I'm not sure this Defense is ready to take on Cam in the run game either

This reminds me so much of that Denver - Seattle game. And I'm kind of expecting the same kind of result? Though the Broncos defense will keep it tighter this time

I'm saying:
Carolina 34
Denver 16

Denvers defence was terrible in 2013-14. They were the superstar offence. It's the exact opposite now.

The games are nothing alike. Broncos are a much tougher opponent this year than they were in the 2014 Superbowl. No ware, no talib, no ward.

If anything the Broncos are the Seahawks of SB 48, when you actually compare the style of play they have.

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

I would like to see Manning win but I can't see it happening.

The question for me is how long will Denver's defense keep them in the game?

I think the Panthers are going to come at Peyton hard.

 

[zombie jesus]

Newton has all the assets to win but I have a SBXXXII feeling about this one for some reason. Will be wearing my new Derek Wolfe jersey just for this occasion.

Are you in for NRL fantasy this year? Roll call is open in the NRL Fantasy forum.

 

[Eelectrica]

I hope it's a great close game, that's not decided by half time. Don't mind who wins really.
I don't begrudge Carolina earning their first title. Wouldn't mind Manning having the ultimate fairy tale ending either.

As we've seen though Carolina's game plan for the season seems to have been to have the game in the bag by half time, and that's carried through in the playoffs.

Problem for Denver is that Carolina is such a complete team that doesn't rely on any one thing to win games. Great in all three areas.

The X factor I guess is the Carolina injury situation with Davis and Harper. They'll both play I'd imagine but how effective they'll be is anyone's guess. Also the injuries that occur during the game, If the Denver D can get some hard but legal hits in early on Cam, that could slow them down a bit.

If Manning wants the fairy tale ending he's going to have to earn it and that's the way it should be.

Carolina 31-23.

 

[Eddie Lab]

It'll be a very interesting Superbowl, Panthers look amazing at the moment, but I don't think they've really played any great teams either.

Seahawks and Cardinals were both pretty ordinary against them and their draw has included Bucs, Falcons, Giants, Saints, Cowboys, Redskins, Titans, Jaguars, Eagles and Packers... Not exactly teams who set the world on fire this season. It's pretty hard to get a read on them with the draw they've had. That's not to detract from anything they've done this season, but whilst there have been some really good top teams in the NFC this season, the AFC has been stronger overall IMO.

I'm so sick of the SoS argument. if only the Panthers could have been play tested against power house teams like the Ravens, Browns, Lions, Packers, Bears, Chargers, Raiders and Colts. wait, didn't the Bronco's lose to the Colts who lost to the Panthers? so shouldn't we say it's hard to get a read on the Bronco's as they haven't really played anyone and in the playoffs they went against two teams that had huge injury tolls?

to be fair they were underdogs against the Patriots and that defense handled it's business with a lot of class.

Broncos will bring a lot more pressure than they've faced all season on defence and the Panthers have given up good yardage generally when coming up against good passing QB's (Packers, Colts, Saints and Giants come to mind).

"it's a different defense then the Panthers have faced all season". you could take that quote out of the pre-game from the regular season Seattle game and both playoff games.

I agree that the panthers secondary is the weak point and I was concerned about Cardinals WR's but they were able to hold them to nothing. plus the Panthers are playing the 14th ranked pass attack so it shouldn't be too big of an issue.

Cam is playing great football at the moment though, but I'd back the Broncos defence to shut down their receivers... Olsen is always a threat, but he's not at Gronkowski's level.

the panthers o-line vs the Broncos d-line is where that side of the game will be decided and I think the Panthers unique run game will tip the scales towards the Panthers.

IMO the game will be decided when Manning is on the field trying to get through the Panthers defense. Mannings passes have been really erratic this season and the Panthers secondary has been creating turnovers all year.

Carolina 34-20
MVP: Cam or Luke

 

[BuffaloRules]

Denver have traditionally been terrible during their SB history...

Let's hope for a game more like the Packers game in the 90's then the game of two years ago..

I have my concerns though...

 

[BuffaloRules]

One particular thought on the game- Denver are going to have to get their running game going...

They definitely need to win the time of possession battle...

Also need to keep it close through 3 quarters... Can't allow the Panthers to start like they have the past 2 weeks as Peyton will struggle from behind.

 

[Firey_Dragon]

I'm so sick of the SoS argument. if only the Panthers could have been play tested against power house teams like the Ravens, Browns, Lions, Packers, Bears, Chargers, Raiders and Colts. wait, didn't the Bronco's lose to the Colts who lost to the Panthers? so shouldn't we say it's hard to get a read on the Bronco's as they haven't really played anyone and in the playoffs they went against two teams that had huge injury tolls?

to be fair they were underdogs against the Patriots and that defense handled it's business with a lot of class.

"it's a different defense then the Panthers have faced all season". you could take that quote out of the pre-game from the regular season Seattle game and both playoff games.

As I said it's hard to get a good read on them. Has nothing to do with how they're performing as a team. You play who is in front of you.

No need to get defensive about it. They've had a stellar season, but I think even the most fanatical Panthers fan would agree that they haven't exactly had the toughest schedule this year either. If they had a schedule similar to other teams in the comp, would it made them 12-4? I don't know, and that's my point.

I agree that the panthers secondary is the weak point and I was concerned about Cardinals WR's but they were able to hold them to nothing. plus the Panthers are playing the 14th ranked pass attack so it shouldn't be too big of an issue.

the panthers o-line vs the Broncos d-line is where that side of the game will be decided and I think the Panthers unique run game will tip the scales towards the Panthers.

IMO the game will be decided when Manning is on the field trying to get through the Panthers defense. Mannings passes have been really erratic this season and the Panthers secondary has been creating turnovers all year.

Carolina 34-20
MVP: Cam or Luke

I personally think there will be less than 6 between the teams, not sure which way it'll go. The Broncos D can hold any team to less than 20 on their day, it comes down to how the Panthers respond if they get that pressure put on them, which they haven't really faced all season. Manning has played a lot smarter since returning, his mid range passing has looked pretty solid. Panthers have been averaging around 2.3 interceptions on offense this game, if the Broncos can push that 4 or 5, then it'll be a lot closer than most think it will be.

 

[kurt faulk]

It'll be a very interesting Superbowl, Panthers look amazing at the moment, but I don't think they've really played any great teams either.

Seahawks and Cardinals were both pretty ordinary against them and their draw has included Bucs, Falcons, Giants, Saints, Cowboys, Redskins, Titans, Jaguars, Eagles and Packers... Not exactly teams who set the world on fire this season. It's pretty hard to get a read on them with the draw they've had. That's not to detract from anything they've done this season, but whilst there have been some really good top teams in the NFC this season, the AFC has been stronger overall IMO.

Broncos will bring a lot more pressure than they've faced all season on defence and the Panthers have given up good yardage generally when coming up against good passing QB's (Packers, Colts, Saints and Giants come to mind).

Cam is playing great football at the moment though, but I'd back the Broncos defence to shut down their receivers... Olsen is always a threat, but he's not at Gronkowski's level.

listen to yourself. the seahawks and cardinals were ordinary. they bitch slapped so many teams this season. the panthers d made them look ordinary. just like they will to the broncos. the broncos d holds the key to this game. if they can stop the panthers with their short fields the broncos have a shot.

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[Firey_Dragon]

listen to yourself. the seahawks and cardinals were ordinary. they bitch slapped so many teams this season. the panthers d made them look ordinary. just like they will to the broncos. the broncos d holds the key to this game. if they can stop the panthers with their short fields the broncos have a shot.

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Seahawks scraped through against Minnesota because of the biggest choke you'll ever see, and continued that the next week.

Arizona were woeful from the outset.

I'm listening to myself. Panthers are a damn good side, how many times do I need to say it? They haven't come up against anything like the Broncos D this season though, so as I said, it's hard to get a read on them at the moment. Many of their games have been blowouts, we haven't really seen them in a grinding match, which almost inevitably every superbowl is with a few exceptions.

 

[Red Bear]

Both games in the play offs the Panthers have just blown the opposition away in quarter one. You'd imagine Denver are better equipped to hold on early than either the Seahawks or the Cardinals.

I like the great player at the end of the road going out with a big win story and hope the Broncos win, you would still have Carolina as comfortable favourites though

 

[Eelectrica]

As I said it's hard to get a good read on them. Has nothing to do with how they're performing as a team. You play who is in front of you.

No need to get defensive about it. They've had a stellar season, but I think even the most fanatical Panthers fan would agree that they haven't exactly had the toughest schedule this year either. If they had a schedule similar to other teams in the comp, would it made them 12-4? I don't know, and that's my point.


I personally think there will be less than 6 between the teams, not sure which way it'll go. The Broncos D can hold any team to less than 20 on their day, it comes down to how the Panthers respond if they get that pressure put on them, which they haven't really faced all season. Manning has played a lot smarter since returning, his mid range passing has looked pretty solid. Panthers have been averaging around 2.3 interceptions on offense this game, if the Broncos can push that 4 or 5, then it'll be a lot closer than most think it will be.

No doubt for the Broncs to be a chance their defense will need to create those turn overs. Without that forced fumble they don't beat the Steelers, without those ints, they don't beat the Patriots.

The regular season the Broncs went 5-2 Vs playoff teams, the Panthers 4-0. No doubt the Broncs have been battle tested and hardened this year.

In the SB, is it better to have been blowing teams away as the Panthers have done, or better to have had the close games and live to tell the tale? Guess we'll see.

The Broncs can't fall too far behind though. Whilst teams like Seattle, and the Giants, Colts had some big comebacks on the Panthers, the Broncs can't do it, and if forced to do so, they'll end up in a wreck like the Cardinals when they fell a long way behind.

 

[Parra]

Peyton took them on an opening drive in their biggest game of the year so far.

Sure if the Panthers blow them off the field early it will be hard for the Broncos to catch up. Always is.

This is a great match up.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Many of their games have been blowouts, we haven't really seen them in a grinding match, which almost inevitably every superbowl is with a few exceptions.

There have been plenty of Super Bowl blowouts.

In the 80's and 90's these were the norm.

Are you familiar with Denvers 5 super bowl losses by the way?

 

[Firey_Dragon]

There have been plenty of Super Bowl blowouts.

In the 80's and 90's these were the norm.

Are you familiar with Denvers 5 super bowl losses by the way?

I've been a Denver fan for 15 years mate. I'm well aware of them :lol:

With the exception of the Broncos v Seahawks SB, most over the last 15 years have been decided by a touchdown or less (10 of them to be exact). I'm also familiar with the beatings Buffalo copped in the 90's ;-)