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Tallinn System

CULLUS.ONLINE

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We have all seen in the media, especially this weekend, the clear frustration that fans clubs, especially the lower clubs, have with the salary cap and the pulling power of clubs such as the Roosters.

The big name clubs have had and still have the success on the feild that draws in the elite players and most importantly, the money.
Lower clubs do not have that success and rely totally on fan numbers and jurniors and "has-beens" to get the team over the line.

It seems to be a continual downward/upward spiral. Clubs such as the Roosters win all the time, get corporate sponsorship and pull the good young players away from the less clubs. These lesser clubs then dont have the ability to win anymore, fan numbers drop eventually leading them to collapse.

The $3.25 Million sallary cap is in theory an excellent idea to try and even the playing feild. However some clubs still have a direct advantage of having money and success to lure in the big name players. The 30 June anti-tampering date also throws in another dimention into the already stressfull time for fans of the lower clubs.

The recent signing of Joel Monahan and Amos Robberts by the Sydney Roosters seems to have been the final straw for many fans of Rugby League. Already the phone-in radio's are overflowing with fans angry that the bigger clubs continue to rape the lesser clubs of their good players and there is nothing that they can do about it.

I propose a new system to be used. I appologise if it has already been thought of, but after thinking long and hard about it, i believe that it may even up the team more.

Introducing the Tallinn System:

Every club in the NRL still has a sallary cap of $3.25 million. However ontop of the sallary cap, there is also a Player Ranking Minumum cap of X amount. For example, a Player Ranking Minumum of 1000 points.

A club cannot go over the $3.25 million cap and must have at least X amount of Player Ranking Points. They must also fulfill a required quota of Player Classed players.

How does it work?

Every player in the NRL (around 300 players) is ranked. Andrew Johns, Brad Fittler, Matt Orford and other elite players like Anthony Minnichello would be ranked up high with rankings between 1 and 20. These would be class 1 players
The ranking would continue down all the way to the 300th player, each ranking into Level Classes. eg: 1-20 Class 1; 21-40 Class 2; 41-70 Class 3; 71-120 Class 4 and so on....

The ranking of a player is the amount of Player Ranking points that player is worth, so, Andrew Johns is ranked 1 and has 1 player ranking point. He is also in Class 1.

When a team, like the Wests Tigers for example, put together their team, they cannot have over $3.25million in sallary payments and they must have at least X amount of Player Ranking Points (1000 for an example).
We all know how the Sallary cap works so I wont bother you with that.
Brett Hodgson is a good player and would be ranked fairly high. He is not however SOO player. He would be ranked at about 40th and therefor be a class 2 player.
Now, the Wests Tigers must buy players to fulfil their Minimum of X number of player ranking points, for example: 1000 points. Brett Hodgson only takes 40 points so the tigers must now find players to make up 960 more points.

How does it even up teams?

Team such as the Sydney Roosters seem to have much better squads. They would therefor, using the Tallinn System, fall short of the required X number of Player Ranking points while clubs such as South Sydney would have an excess of points. The Roosters would therefor have to buy players who are ranked poorly to fill in the gap. With the $3.25 million sallary cap in force, they would have to release some highly ranked players to free up money to fill in the gap.

Clubs like Souths would then have room AND the ability to be able to buy well-ranked players.

The end result: clubs squads are evened up.

Now there is also a quota or limmit on the amount of well classed players that a team could have. Most of the time teams would not come near this limit, but it is there to stop squads from somehow having to many Class 1 or Class 2 players (like the roosters).

How are Players ranked?

A Player Ranking Commission (PRC), a section of the ARL, meets 5 times a year; After rounds 6, 12, 18, 24 and after the Grand Final.
The PRC ranks the players according to their ability, their history, there representitive record and other factors including stats. There rankings are kept secret until the end of the year when players are given their rankings. Because there is a 5th meeting after the grand final, obviosuly players who make the grand final will be ranked higher than if they did not.

At the end of the year players and teams are given the rankings and negotiations can start 1 week after they are handed out (to give clubs time to figure out the points and negotiate internally).

The player ranking system will also show players if they have inproved or not.

Jurniors and Vetrans

Obviously players such as Benji Marshall, Karmichael Hunt and Billy Slater have burst onto the scene. Sometimes this is just a mixture of luck, good jurnior policy or something else. Initially all players who make their debute during a year would not have a ranking and therefor not come under the X amount of Player Ranking Points Minimum or Sallary Cap. This is a reward for clubs who have alot of emphasis on jurnior policy. Once a player enters first grade, the next year they will be ranked, even if they dont go to first grade again or stay in PL (where Points have no effect).

Player Loyalty

If a player stays at a club for 7 years or more then their player points are multiplied by the number of years they stay at the club. eg: Darren Senter has played 10 years and is ranked 95th. Therefor he has a player ranking point of 95 times 3 years extra which is 285.


In the end, the Tallinn System will see strugling clubs have the ability to buy stronger players and good clubs not be able to creat a monopoly.

Feel free to pick at my idea, and again, if this idea has already been brought up then my appologies to the original inventor
 

brooksy19

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:clap: They use that in the NBA, i believe.
That works , but im sure there will be ways clubs can get around that.
 

CULLUS.ONLINE

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I add to this that obviously only the top 25 or so payed players at the begining of a year would be in the clubs "Squad"

One aspect that i cant solve yet is the money. Clubs like souths might now have the $3.25 million to buy class 1 players and therefor richer clubs like the cowboys would get them. But hopefully after a few years the system will start to work and each and every club will have enough money to buy $3.25million worth of players!
 

Tap Twist Snap

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Nice idea but... could never see the clubs agreeing to it and someone would take it to court or something.. still would have a better chance than a draft.
 

CULLUS.ONLINE

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Tap Twist Snap said:
Nice idea but... could never see the clubs agreeing to it and someone would take it to court or something.. still would have a better chance than a draft.

Mate you only have to listen to the fans who are ringing into all the radio stations to realise that we (non-roosters/broncos ect..) fans are getting really pissed off at the whole deal.

And today we see Gallop actually releasing a statement to the media about it.

I listed to him on ABC yesterday when he was asked out the whole issue of the better clubs "raping" the smaller ones (quote: "there is a general feeling or sentiment") and he just blatently said "im not going to listen to that"
 

Vicious

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There should be a limit and/or salary cap on clubs recruiting established top class 1st graders! i.e if a player is a local junior or recruited to the club before being associated with any other club eg.Crocker,Flannery etc would be counted as Rooster juniors to make them happy,Nathan Hindmarsh would obviously be counted as a Parra junior,but he would also be exempt from the cap if he chose to play at either Canberrs or St G/Illawarra as his home town is pretty much in between both of them clubs!I don`t have a problem how much players get paid particularly if a certain club produces or scouts the majority of that side,but with situations like the Roosters taking Canberras best young player in Joel Monaghan and the way Parramatta took Newcastles Timana Tahu it becomes sickening!!!
 

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