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Team v Sharks

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Hmmm.
Sharks hot and cold so far.
Have to watch their edge back rowers straightening up as Trindle and Hynes drift across.
 

TheDMC

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How did Charnze go at center last week (apart from scoring a couple of tries)? I missed the game and didn't want to watch the replay when I learned the result...
 
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How did Charnze go at center last week (apart from scoring a couple of tries)? I missed the game and didn't want to watch the replay when I learned the result...
He had a bad miss on Doueihi leading up to Bula's try. I dont remember too much else (other than the scores too) though.

That right edge is a bloody sieve. Leka missed Doueihi on that side as well later in the game, after Charnze had moved back to fb.

Dallin was fingered as the culprit on that side all of last season, but he's been mostly fine this year and its the guys inside him. One on one misses, bad decisions, late releases... scramble saved us till now but it finally bit us on the ass last week.
 
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I always preface my league chat by saying I've literally never played the game, other than a single all-day tournament at Puhunui School in what I reckon would have been 1992 or so.

But surely edge defense is about combinations and trust? It would be really hard to defend in a system if you are not aware of what the guy next to you does under pressure, what his tendency is to do (ie race up, slide etc) and so on? I know we have good systems but when that side became Metcalf/CNK/Dallin, and has been CHT/Ali/Dallin, that's going to take time to gel, right?

Think that's probably something Webby is very aware of, that combinations are key and we looked foreign to each other last week.
 
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He had a bad miss on Doueihi leading up to Bula's try. I dont remember too much else (other than the scores too) though.

That right edge is a bloody sieve. Leka missed Doueihi on that side as well later in the game, after Charnze had moved back to fb.

Dallin was fingered as the culprit on that side all of last season, but he's been mostly fine this year and its the guys inside him. One on one misses, bad decisions, late releases... scramble saved us till now but it finally bit us on the ass last week.
The Doueihi miss was also on Boyd who tackled the inside runner. Charnze came up square, but if I remember correctly stopped, which would be great if a straight line and Doueihi just stepped inside him through Boyd gap. I'm not 100% sure best approach when your inside man has failed? I suspect start back pedal in hope others slide across. Running out and missing won't help.
 
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The Doueihi miss was also on Boyd who tackled the inside runner. Charnze came up square, but if I remember correctly stopped, which would be great if a straight line and Doueihi just stepped inside him through Boyd gap. I'm not 100% sure best approach when your inside man has failed? I suspect start back pedal in hope others slide across. Running out and missing won't help.
Yea you’re right actually, I was being unfair on Charnze.

Went back and had a closer look and the end on replay shows it really clearly. Boyd took the block runner as you say, which left Charnze and DWZ covering Douehi, Bula who was already looming on his inside, plus Makasini and Laulilii on the outside.

Have a new appreciation for just how well the Tiges engineered that play now... they gave themselves three different options for a clean linebreak with that one shape. Poor Charnez was on a hiding to nothing.
 
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I always preface my league chat by saying I've literally never played the game, other than a single all-day tournament at Puhunui School in what I reckon would have been 1992 or so.

But surely edge defense is about combinations and trust? It would be really hard to defend in a system if you are not aware of what the guy next to you does under pressure, what his tendency is to do (ie race up, slide etc) and so on? I know we have good systems but when that side became Metcalf/CNK/Dallin, and has been CHT/Ali/Dallin, that's going to take time to gel, right?

Think that's probably something Webby is very aware of, that combinations are key and we looked foreign to each other last week.
Right side is normally where the 7 defends so Boyd has been the constant there. But yea I agree, combinations, understanding and trust is everything, plus good direction from the fb on numbering.

And the combination on that right edge has been all over the place. Boyd and DWZ have been fairly constant since mid last season, but centre and backrow on that side seem to change nearly every third or fourth game. Ali, Berry (when fit), CNK, Capewell, Leka, Marata... its like a transit station sometimes.
 

Big Marn

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We have Ziggy this round. I cant remember the last time hes reffed us, if ever. Liam Kennedy got the flick for his Titans fiasco so maybe he was next man up. He usually runs the sideline.
 

TheDMC

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He had a bad miss on Doueihi leading up to Bula's try. I dont remember too much else (other than the scores too) though.

That right edge is a bloody sieve. Leka missed Doueihi on that side as well later in the game, after Charnze had moved back to fb.

Dallin was fingered as the culprit on that side all of last season, but he's been mostly fine this year and its the guys inside him. One on one misses, bad decisions, late releases... scramble saved us till now but it finally bit us on the ass last week.

Thanks mate. Not the first time Doueihi has carved us up.
 

Meth

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We have Ziggy this round. I cant remember the last time hes reffed us, if ever.


Here's what the teams looked like last time he reffed us.
 
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