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The 2013 ashes

TheParraboy

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1st Test:

Trent Bridge
10-14 July 2013 (Nottingham)

2nd Test:

Lords
18-22 July 2013 (London)

3rd Test:

Old Trafford
1-5 August 2013 (Manchester)

4th Test:

Chester-Le-Street
9-13 August 2013 (Durham)

5th Test:

The Oval
21-25 August 2013 (London)
 

TheParraboy

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Will be doing my best to get 4-5 weeks off work next year to go and see two tests over there, plus see a bit of Europe as well
 

IanG

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So they've changed the scheduling. 1st test was going to be at Chester-Le-Street.
 

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Did I read somewhere that we're then hosting them in 2013-14, making it in effect 10 Ashes Tests in a row?

Had something to do with us being unable to host the Ashes and World Cup in 14-15 I think.
 

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Glad that they've returned to Trent Bridge and Old Trafford and f**ked off Sophia Gardens.
 
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Did I read somewhere that we're then hosting them in 2013-14, making it in effect 10 Ashes Tests in a row?

Had something to do with us being unable to host the Ashes and World Cup in 14-15 I think.

Yep, 10 in a row.

Plus 4 tests in India as well.... it's gonna be one hell of a year.
 

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After watching the Poms in the first two tests against the Windies if we pick our best side i think they are very very beatable.
 

IanG

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Did I read somewhere that we're then hosting them in 2013-14, making it in effect 10 Ashes Tests in a row?

Had something to do with us being unable to host the Ashes and World Cup in 14-15 I think.

100% correct. Ashes and the World Cup are big events. Perhaps this way people can have both where as if they had both in the same season people wont have enough coin.

Plus 4 tests in India as well.

What again??????????/
 
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Will be doing my best to get 4-5 weeks off work next year to go and see two tests over there, plus see a bit of Europe as well

I'm thinking of doing the same.

Nice that the last test is in London. Will work out nicely.
 

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I will try to become a member of the MCC by then, and if that fails, I will pick out the most attractive member and take him for a partner
 
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100% correct. Ashes and the World Cup are big events. Perhaps this way people can have both where as if they had both in the same season people wont have enough coin.



What again??????????/

Yep after the home ODI's conclude, but for 4 tests this time. According to the Future Tours Program we apparently tour again later in the year for 7 ODI's and a T20.... lol

I wonder if Punter will see out the year, or the ashes in the old dart is his swan song ?

No doubt he'll at least want to see out the series at home after
 

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http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-australia-2012/content/story/569197.html

Watson wants to be Ashes avenger

Rather than train, Michael Clarke's Australian tourists watched The Avengers in Leicester on Wednesday. It is a film title Clarke might also like to be applied to his team, as resolve builds in Australian cricket to rid itself of the scars inflicted by England in recent Ashes series.

Before curtain-up, the vice-captain Shane Watson candidly admitted that Australian cricketers visiting the British Isles must now contend with the sorts of unhelpful memories that bedevilled the minds of their England counterparts in the 1990s and early 2000s. Back then, a succession of teams appeared beaten down by history well before they had a chance to engage their opponents.

Frank as ever, Watson said the team will have to overturn negative thoughts emanating from Ashes defeats in 2009 and 2010-11, and that it would continue to battle them until they regain the urn, the Test team's clear goal for 2013.

This year's ODI tour will help to provide experience of English bowlers, batsmen and climes for many tourists who have not encountered them before, but Watson said the 2012 reconnaissance would be only of superficial value in ridding himself and others of the wounds incurred in past losses.

"Until you can get into the Ashes and perform the way we need to perform those memories are going to be in the back of your mind," Watson said. "Everything we are doing is to try to improve every single time we train and play. Hopefully that will continue our development and improvement leading into the Ashes and we will have some happier memories than the previous couple of series.

"But there is no doubt we have to improve in a big way from the past Ashes series. We are working hard on the areas that we were deficient at. That is why this next year is about continuing our development in the areas that were just not good enough against the Poms hin the past couple of series here and in the series in Australia as well."

Australia failed in many areas in the past two Ashes series, but Watson pointed to numerous horrendous sessions with the bat as the most damaging passages in surrendering the initiative to Andrew Strauss' England team. There was the loss of eight wickets in a session at the Oval when a drawn match would have retained the urn, an early loss of three runs for two wickets at Adelaide Oval in the second Test of 2010-11, and the crowning humiliation of being bowled out for 98 on Boxing Day.

"One of our biggest weaknesses was our batting collapses. That is something that we are trying to continue to work on," Watson said. "Like most batting teams if someone is bowling at good pace and swinging the ball consistently it provides a really big challenge - we have to get better to get through those periods.

"In the past, over the last couple of series here especially we haven't been able to get through those periods limiting the damage. We have been losing four and five wickets through that period. What we are working on at the moment is to continue to challenge ourselves against the swinging ball. You need to back your game and your natural instincts but shape your game and shape your technique to combat what was thrown about."

Much as Allan Border's side overcame similarly unhappy memories to win the Ashes in 1989, so Clarke's team will endeavour to learn from past mistakes. In Watson's case there has already been evidence of this, in how his bowling has developed over successive England trips to become decidedly crafty and dangerous where once it was youthfully naïve.

"My first few tours I didn't enjoy it because I didn't know how to get the best out of myself as a bowler and that's about your development as a cricketer really - adapting to the conditions that are presented," Watson said.

"There's no doubt the Duke ball can really help your swing bowling out here. That's when I finally discovered the better way to bowl here rather than trying to bowl 100 miles an hour, gun-barrel straight.

"I really enjoy that over here, but on the flipside that's a challenge as a batsman, know bowlers do have the best success here by swinging the ball."

Australia's opening match of the tour takes place against Leicestershire at Grace Road on Thursday, with the likes of Pat Cummins, James Pattinson, Peter Forrest, George Bailey, Steve Smith and the recalled Mitchell Johnson all looking for a chance to secure a spot in the ODI matches that follow
 

IanG

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How much will the ball come into play?
Wont really be an indercator in this ODI series.
 

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John Inverarity all but confirms Ricky Ponting and Mike Hussey will be part of Australia's Ashes squad
By Richard Earle
July 05, 2012

National selection boss John Inverarity has all but confirmed Ricky Ponting and Mike Hussey will both front in next year's Ashes series.

Selectors are still waiting for understudies to fire and axed opener Phil Hughes to grow up and "come again".

Australia has used just three warriors over 38 on an Ashes tour since World War II but it will be five as Ponting and Hussey get a last chance for revenge against the Old Enemy.

This highlights a talent vacuum that threatens Australia's Ashes plans before a ball is bowled.

"I don't see why age is relevant. If you compare a 37-year-old now with that of 25-years-ago it is very different," Inverarity said in Birmingham.

"Hussey and Ponting are so fit, healthy and hungry. They couldn't be fitter. If they are playing well and are fit, why would you leave them out?"

Australia's tough one-day series against England has taken on tremendous significance with Inverarity isolating George Bailey, David Hussey and Peter Forrest as the next three cabs off the rank at Test level in a barren batting cupboard.

Selectors are unashamedly using the 50-over game as a grooming ground for Test cricket with the 2-0 scoreline here a second priority.

Bailey has 97 runs at 47 this series but got bogged down at the Oval, Hussey has 41 at 22 while Forrest made 12 from 30 balls at The Oval.

By contrast flowering Eoin Morgan (132 runs) hasn't been dismissed, Ravi Bopara is averaging 48 and Ian Bell 58.

"I am happy with the three we have invested opportunity but of course I would like to see them break through," said Inverarity, craving "prolific run scorers" to put pressure on a "settled" Test top six.

"They are the best we have got. We made a decision six months ago that if a spot became available we don't want them making international debuts at Lord's in a Test.

"We are trying to see who the next replacement batsmen are."

Ed Cowan is averaging 29 from seven Tests and Hughes remains a wildcard with Inverarity believing the left-hander and Usman Khawaja will transform from boys to men having moved away from the New South Wales comfort zone.

Chris Rogers also remains an option.

"You need to grow up as a young man, develop independence, resilience, initiative and support structures. Having to stand on your own two feet enhances that thing," said Inverarity of Hughes and Khawaja, who will line up with South Australia and Queensland respectively next season.

Inverarity said the prospect of young pace trio Cummins, Pattinson and left-armer Mitchell Starc maturing over the next 12 months was the ray of sunshine for Australia ahead of the Ashes.

"I thought Pat looked good coming in effortlessly at 150km/h at Lord's," said Inverarity, adding nothing could have been done to prevent the side strain that ended Cummins' one-day series at Lord's.

Inverarity also defended Mitchell Johnson's selection saying he "bowled well" after conceding 0/20 from his first two overs at The Oval.
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