The Comic Book Film Thread *** SPOILERS ***

[Game_Breaker]

I can still enjoy the movie and point out the massive plot holes

 

[shiznit]

Sooooo... apparently the reaction to Dark Phoenix has been really good...

The embargo lifts 2moro so I’ll be interested to see what the reviews look like.

 

[greenBV4]

Sooooo... apparently the reaction to Dark Phoenix has been really good...

The embargo lifts 2moro so I’ll be interested to see what the reviews look like.

Saw a post on Facebook this morning from Village Cinemas (or could of been a different one) advertising it as "the next instalment of the Marvel Universe"
99% its probably just misleading to try bump up sales (technically not a lie, they didn't say MCU), but it'd be interesting if there was some sort of mention in the movie of alternate universes, leading into the eventual merging of them somehow

And theres been a fair bit of talk of Deadpool being the first to make a jump, some say in deadpool 3 and some say in spiderman 3, and if true I think it'd actually be a great idea, he could just explain how it happened in movie by breaking the 4th wall

 

[Springs09]

Saw a post on Facebook this morning from Village Cinemas (or could of been a different one) advertising it as "the next instalment of the Marvel Universe"
99% its probably just misleading to try bump up sales (technically not a lie, they didn't say MCU), but it'd be interesting if there was some sort of mention in the movie of alternate universes, leading into the eventual merging of them somehow

And theres been a fair bit of talk of Deadpool being the first to make a jump, some say in deadpool 3 and some say in spiderman 3, and if true I think it'd actually be a great idea, he could just explain how it happened in movie by breaking the 4th wall

Feige did review the script and 'tone' of Dark Phoenix when Disney acquired Fox and New Mutants has been delayed to fit in with the Disney release schedule so surely there's a hint or two somewhere within the 2 movies.

 

[Zoidberg]

Sooooo... apparently the reaction to Dark Phoenix has been really good...

The embargo lifts 2moro so I’ll be interested to see what the reviews look like.

Rotten tomatoes currently has it at 15%.
Ugh. I was worried about this and it looks to have lived up to my fears. Not keen to see it but I will.

 

[Springs09]

Sooooo... apparently the reaction to Dark Phoenix has been really good...

The embargo lifts 2moro so I’ll be interested to see what the reviews look like.

Early twitter reactions are always 'good'

 

[shiznit]

Yeah maybe I jumped the gun with the twitter reactions... the reviews I’ve read are pretty bad...

 

[bileduct]

Dark Phoenix is an absolutely underwhelming f**king mess.

Shit writing, shit direction, shit performances from individuals like Jennifer Lawrence. Such a sad ending to a once great franchise. I really don't know what else to say other than -10/10.

The only part I enjoyed was seeing Dazzler, and that only went for about 5 seconds.

 

[bileduct]

Feige did review the script and 'tone' of Dark Phoenix when Disney acquired Fox and New Mutants has been delayed to fit in with the Disney release schedule so surely there's a hint or two somewhere within the 2 movies.

There's zero hints in this film as to how X-Men could be incorporated into the MCU. The Spider-man: Far From Home trailer before it probably provides the biggest clue as to how it could happen.

 

[Springs09]

There's zero hints in this film as to how X-Men could be incorporated into the MCU. The Spider-man: Far From Home trailer before it probably provides the biggest clue as to how it could happen.

Is there anything redeeming about it all? Did they at least look like they tried?

 

[bileduct]

Is there anything redeeming about it all? Did they at least look like they tried?

Nope.

 

[Zoidberg]

Just back from Dark Phoenix. Pretty much a nothing movie. Comparable to a filler episode of a tv show with a underlying story arc. Doesn’t feel like they expected this to be the final movie of this franchise. Some bits were ok. Nothing new or fresh. Didn’t expect much and still disappointed.

 

[bileduct]

Just back from Dark Phoenix. Pretty much a nothing movie. Comparable to a filler episode of a tv show with a underlying story arc. Doesn’t feel like they expected this to be the final movie of this franchise. Some bits were ok. Nothing new or fresh. Didn’t expect much and still disappointed.

Yup. Went in with low expectations and even they weren't met.

The most disappointing aspect of this film was that Jean never really wielded the Phoenix force in a manner that satisfactorily displayed its true destructive power. At one point I think there was a television report than mentioned how she'd destroyed two communities, except all she'd done was f**k up two houses and a bunch of cop cars at one and destroy a helicopter at the other.

My understanding is that large portions of the movie had to be reshot because there was too much similarity to the Captain Marvel story, particularly with regard to the shapeshifting aliens and their motivations (which were to neutralise a threat to their own existence.) The ending was supposed to have Jean using the Phoenix force to blow away an entire incoming alien fleet.

The only real improvement over The Last Stand was that they at least tried to incorporate more elements of the original story. The D'Bari were the alien raced wiped out by Jean Grey in the comics when she sucked all the power out of their sun. In this film the Phoenix force has already f**ked up their planet before it encounters Jean Grey.

Jennifer Lawrence just f**king sucked. I've never seen a more soulless performance in any superhero film. James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender were adequate with the excrement they were given, but everyone else in this film were just completely forgettable. Quicksilver was incapacitated for 2/3rds of the film because.... why?

 

[Storm13]

Didn't think anyone was still watching these X-Men movies still?

Series should of been rebooted even before the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man series was

 

[Springs09]

Didn't think anyone was still watching these X-Men movies still?

Series should of been rebooted even before the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man series was

Would have missed out on several of the best superhero movies then.

 

[Storm13]

Would have missed out on several of the best superhero movies then.

Doubtful. Days of Future Past was ok. Logan was awesome. Deadpool was good. X-Men universe is so big yet they aim small.

 

[shiznit]

Doubtful. Days of Future Past was ok. Logan was awesome. Deadpool was good. X-Men universe is so big yet they aim small.

First Class??

I enjoyed the f**k out of that movie... admittedly i had super low expectations after Last Stand... but as far as rebooting a superhero franchise... I don’t think you can do much better IMO...

 

[Storm13]

First Class??

I enjoyed the f**k out of that movie... admittedly i had super low expectations after Last Stand... but as far as rebooting a superhero franchise... I don’t think you can do much better IMO...

Actually I do mean First Class and not Days of Futures Past (time travel movies are usually lame). Not a popular opinion but I would say First Class and The Last Stand are the two closest movies to the X-Men in general.

 

[Springs09]

Doubtful. Days of Future Past was ok. Logan was awesome. Deadpool was good. X-Men universe is so big yet they aim small.

Days of Future Past and Logan are as good as anything the MCU has done. First Class was also good. The Deadpool movies I don't like as much but they are entertaining and people seem to love them.

So yes, if they rebooted X-Men after Last Stand we would have missed out on several of the current best Superhero movies.

None of the post-Raimi Spider-Man movies have been as good as Spider-Man or Spider-Man 2. I would be very surprised if a fully rebooted X-Men series would have given us 4 or so good movies in the last ten years.

 

[bileduct]

I couldn't even tell you what happened in any of the non-Tobey Maguire Spider-man movies because they are so f**king forgettable.