The Dangerous Bob Lui

[madunit]

i wouldn't be surprised if Moltzen moves on, parra are looking for a halfback, hell they're offerring Sandow well over 50 bucks a game, so they're real desperate. Won't be surprised if they come sniffing around here

 

[Magpies Forever]

i wouldn't be surprised if Moltzen moves on, parra are looking for a halfback, hell they're offerring Sandow well over 50 bucks a game, so they're real desperate. Won't be surprised if they come sniffing around here

Too true. I'm sure either Moltzen or Miller will be tempted. Question is who do WT prefer to loose?

 

[cerberus]

gee there was alot to like about lui . his kicking was top shelf .
but what i really liked was his cool head .when others around him were getting the mist up. i was thinking the line scribled in the note book would be ."possible future captain"

 

[R2Coupe]

Too true. I'm sure either Moltzen or Miller will be tempted. Question is who do WT prefer to loose?

Moltzen's value to the team increases in his utility role. You would think Beau Ryan, Utai and McKinnon would go with their places taken by our u20s. Brown also with his ability to play a number of positions is an important retention.

 

[innsaneink]

I've asked this before and no one knew the answer but I'll ask again. Is Robert Lui any relation to former Norths lower grader Mixie Lui?

I think the names are pronounced differently, wasnt mixies name pronounced ''lou"? where Lui end with the ''eee'' sound?
Tho for all I know that might mean f**k all and theyre long lost twins

 

[Old Time Tiger]

i wouldn't be surprised if Moltzen moves on, parra are looking for a halfback

actually had not thought of that and

would think Beau Ryan, Utai and McKinnon would go with their places taken by our u20s

the penny drops - there's some dollars there to buy Blair.

Add Payten to that list as I assume he is heading to the retirement home.

 

[macnaz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vae_AkLb4Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDP7_h4wkgw&feature=related :music2:

 

[madunit]

I think the names are pronounced differently, wasnt mixies name pronounced ''lou"? where Lui end with the ''eee'' sound?
Tho for all I know that might mean f**k all and theyre long lost twins

they'd be the same age too

 

[Tigerm]

Moltzen's value to the team increases in his utility role. You would think Beau Ryan, Utai and McKinnon would go with their places taken by our u20s. Brown also with his ability to play a number of positions is an important retention.

Why would Utai & McKinnon go?
McKinnon was near best on ground against Raiders & outplayed Duggan by a country mile? Utai was practically unstoppable. Agree with Ryan, no longer really required, but what is his contract value? We would have him covered with experience players anyway. I just don't see any point in rushing kids up who may not be capable to handle it, week in & week out. Surely they have to prove themselves first, but why would you drop Utai or McKinnon at this time?

 

[R2Coupe]

Utai and Ryan play in positions which are relatively easy to fill compared to the halves. Both are not in the top echelon of wingers and Utai at near 29 is coming to the end of his career. Ryan lacks pace to be a top winger.

McKinnon with his history of injury, age and lack of pace is a very short term proposition.

Moltzen is on a very modest contract so suggestions his money would pay for Blair is not based on reality. Secondly, he is only 22 and has a limited number of games in the NRL. He has great improvement in him compared to the above three players. Moltzen also plays half or 5/8, and good halves are scarce. Finally, Moltzen is one of our outstanding backs and just because a few rabid supporters run him down on a few forums can't take away from his ability and potential. He is a good player and an important member of the team.

 

[Tigerm]

Utai and Ryan play in positions which are relatively easy to fill compared to the halves. Both are not in the top echelon of wingers and Utai at near 29 is coming to the end of his career. Ryan lacks pace to be a top winger.

McKinnon with his history of injury, age and lack of pace is a very short term proposition.

Moltzen is on a very modest contract so suggestions his money would pay for Blair is not based on reality. Secondly, he is only 22 and has a limited number of games in the NRL. He has great improvement in him compared to the above three players. Moltzen also plays half or 5/8, and good halves are scarce. Finally, Moltzen is one of our outstanding backs and just because a few rabid supporters run him down on a few forums can't take away from his ability and potential. He is a good player and an important member of the team.

Moltzen, don't really disagree, but at this time he will probably only be the sub back in a full strength squad, not that there is anything wrong with that?
Ryan, I think we have enough players to cover his position, but how much does he cost us? Maybe it's worth keeping him here?
Utai at 29 is not anywhere near the end of career if he maintains this form, I think they could look at him for higher honours again. Tiquiri is older than him? As for not being in the top echelon, are you saying we have some under 20's who are?
McKinnon, again on current form isn't going anywhere, look at his game compared to Duggan's to see his value. Injuries are part of the game, if we take that as our mark, then Marshal would have been booted out 3 years ago? No, I am not comparing him to Marshal.
Look, I am not totally disagreeing with you, but replacing experience with youth, just for the sake of it, smacks of panic, I don't see any need for that, at this time.

 

[Magpies Forever]

Too true. I'm sure either Moltzen or Miller will be tempted. Question is who do WT prefer to loose?

Souths have just lost Sandow to Parra for 2012 onwards- they may now be sniffing around with offers to Moltzen / Miller. Moltzen is signed for 2012 if memory serves me correctly but I reckon if he asked for a release he'd be given one. The best he can get from WT seems to be utility interchnage under Sheens. Miller I think is ony signed for 2011.

 

[madunit]

Unless Moltzen bulks up a bit, learns to tackle and plays centre full time, with Ayshford moving to Lock, I can't see him being too permanent.

I heard Miller was contracted with us til end of 2012.

 

[R2Coupe]

In the RLW released today, Moltzen confirms he wants to stay at the Club with an extended contract. He appears to be very loyal and to me is one outstanding talent the club needs to keep. I don't understand the logic of supporters attempting to push him out. I'm thankful the Club recognises his value. I reiterate he is going to improve and considering the limited number of NRL games he has played, is doing well.

 

[R2Coupe]

Moltzen, don't really disagree, but at this time he will probably only be the sub back in a full strength squad, not that there is anything wrong with that?
Ryan, I think we have enough players to cover his position, but how much does he cost us? Maybe it's worth keeping him here?
Utai at 29 is not anywhere near the end of career if he maintains this form, I think they could look at him for higher honours again. Tiquiri is older than him? As for not being in the top echelon, are you saying we have some under 20's who are?
McKinnon, again on current form isn't going anywhere, look at his game compared to Duggan's to see his value. Injuries are part of the game, if we take that as our mark, then Marshal would have been booted out 3 years ago? No, I am not comparing him to Marshal.
Look, I am not totally disagreeing with you, but replacing experience with youth, just for the sake of it, smacks of panic, I don't see any need for that, at this time.

Marshall is an amazing talent and his courage speaks for itself. My point is, Moltzen is a very talented football on a very modest contract who wants to stay. His loss would realise little $ and would leave a huge gap in the attacking armoury of the team. Retaining him is a no brainer as he has a great deal of improvement in him at 22. Even now he is a very good footballer.

The other players except Ryan are nearing the end. At 29 this is close to the end in the NRL. There are exceptions such as Tuqiri.

 

[madunit]

I'm not pushing him out at all. He's clearly a talented half.

But it seems Lui has a mortgage on that role now, so Moltz is going to have to evolve and become a more universal type player to maintain a spot in the 17.

Otherwise, i wouldn't be surprised if some club with some coin rocks up and puts a good offer to him, especially if he have little cash left to persuade him to stay

 

[R2Coupe]

He recognises this in the RLW article. Read it and you get a feel for a very loyal player who is only 22. He is one of our guns.

 

[ShanghaiCharlie]

Utai and Ryan play in positions which are relatively easy to fill compared to the halves. Both are not in the top echelon of wingers and Utai at near 29 is coming to the end of his career. Ryan lacks pace to be a top winger.

McKinnon with his history of injury, age and lack of pace is a very short term proposition.

Moltzen is on a very modest contract so suggestions his money would pay for Blair is not based on reality. Secondly, he is only 22 and has a limited number of games in the NRL. He has great improvement in him compared to the above three players. Moltzen also plays half or 5/8, and good halves are scarce. Finally, Moltzen is one of our outstanding backs and just because a few rabid supporters run him down on a few forums can't take away from his ability and potential. He is a good player and an important member of the team.

McKinnon is signed on for next year. Utai, considering the style of game he plays, has still got at least three years at the top left. I don't think there's a more punishing winger through the ruck than Utai in the comp. I can't remember any horror errors either that have let in tries or where he has been beaten on pace by his opposite winger.

 

[b.bear]

You could see his ability from the back end of last season. Can't believe there are people who are still bagging him. He is quality, and he will only get better.

He's no Tim Moltzen

 

[b.bear]

In the RLW released today, Moltzen confirms he wants to stay at the Club with an extended contract. He appears to be very loyal and to me is one outstanding talent the club needs to keep. I don't understand the logic of supporters attempting to push him out. I'm thankful the Club recognises his value. I reiterate he is going to improve and considering the limited number of NRL games he has played, is doing well.

Tim, OOOPPS ! should I say R2Coupe your so wrong