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The Langer era: ODI 24-22, T20 24-2-22 Tests 15-5-7

Bazal

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Swepson will probably go, Pakistan are historically poor against leg spin.

Bird? I think he's flown the coup.

Definitely wouldn't be picking Bird, a swing and seam bowler, on the low slow UAE wickets....there's still a place for him if needed in home tests though, but you saw how ineffective he was on the abysmal MCG wicket last summer. Dude needs something in the surface or the air.

I'm struggling to think who deserves a go, tbh...f**k it, just go with three spinners and Starc/Marsh. At least that way Starc won't break down trying to bowl four thousand overs.
 

TheParraboy

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oh boy....



www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/24662442/how-justin-langer-slipped-centuries-statistic


Australia's coach Justin Langer read a spreadsheet incorrectly in coming up with a "total hundreds" statistic that counted international centuries twice.

Hundreds have been a common theme of Langer's recent public discussions on team selection, either side of Tuesday's announcement of the 15-man squad to play two Tests against Pakistan in the UAE in October.

The unselected Glenn Maxwell, Langer said, had only made 17 centuries "above A-Grade cricket" while the suspended Steven Smith and David Warner had 79 and 88 respectively. Aaron Finch, meanwhile, was credited with 41 hundreds across all forms. This was cited as a reason why Maxwell, in particular, needed to be more productive to regain a place in the Test team.

However, these figures could only be reached by tallying all the common statistical categories for centuries - Test, ODI, T20I, first-class, List A and T20 - as though they are entirely separate. This overlooks the fact that the latter three categories already include their international equivalents.

Smith, then, does not have 79 hundreds but 48; Warner not 88 but 53. Finch's tally slips from 41 to 28, and Maxwell's from 17 to 13. So the overall, basic point about hundreds scored still stands in terms of Maxwell not making as many as the rest, but the nuance is a matter for questions. Over the past 48 hours, many in Australian cricket have been asking them.
 

Timbo

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oh boy....



www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/24662442/how-justin-langer-slipped-centuries-statistic


Australia's coach Justin Langer read a spreadsheet incorrectly in coming up with a "total hundreds" statistic that counted international centuries twice.

Hundreds have been a common theme of Langer's recent public discussions on team selection, either side of Tuesday's announcement of the 15-man squad to play two Tests against Pakistan in the UAE in October.

The unselected Glenn Maxwell, Langer said, had only made 17 centuries "above A-Grade cricket" while the suspended Steven Smith and David Warner had 79 and 88 respectively. Aaron Finch, meanwhile, was credited with 41 hundreds across all forms. This was cited as a reason why Maxwell, in particular, needed to be more productive to regain a place in the Test team.

However, these figures could only be reached by tallying all the common statistical categories for centuries - Test, ODI, T20I, first-class, List A and T20 - as though they are entirely separate. This overlooks the fact that the latter three categories already include their international equivalents.

Smith, then, does not have 79 hundreds but 48; Warner not 88 but 53. Finch's tally slips from 41 to 28, and Maxwell's from 17 to 13. So the overall, basic point about hundreds scored still stands in terms of Maxwell not making as many as the rest, but the nuance is a matter for questions. Over the past 48 hours, many in Australian cricket have been asking them.


I just. f**k, I just bloody can't.

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Eelectrica

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Their is no method to this madness, it's just pure madness.
One day we'll wake up and find a horse is the Aus captain.
 

Eelectrica

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Not just that, he then reads it wrongly to analyse the info

Anyone could be a test player under JL

Im thinking of putting on the pads again...
Under the Langer era hundreds made in the back yard count... twice.
Don't get too many though or you won't be picked on grounds of being over qualified.
 

Twizzle

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www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/24662442/how-justin-langer-slipped-centuries-statistic


Australia's coach Justin Langer read a spreadsheet incorrectly in coming up with a "total hundreds" statistic that counted international centuries twice.

Hundreds have been a common theme of Langer's recent public discussions on team selection, either side of Tuesday's announcement of the 15-man squad to play two Tests against Pakistan in the UAE in October.

The unselected Glenn Maxwell, Langer said, had only made 17 centuries "above A-Grade cricket" while the suspended Steven Smith and David Warner had 79 and 88 respectively. Aaron Finch, meanwhile, was credited with 41 hundreds across all forms. This was cited as a reason why Maxwell, in particular, needed to be more productive to regain a place in the Test team.

However, these figures could only be reached by tallying all the common statistical categories for centuries - Test, ODI, T20I, first-class, List A and T20 - as though they are entirely separate. This overlooks the fact that the latter three categories already include their international equivalents.

Smith, then, does not have 79 hundreds but 48; Warner not 88 but 53. Finch's tally slips from 41 to 28, and Maxwell's from 17 to 13. So the overall, basic point about hundreds scored still stands in terms of Maxwell not making as many as the rest, but the nuance is a matter for questions. Over the past 48 hours, many in Australian cricket have been asking them.

I read a similar article and the mind just boggles and it was in relation to how many tons the Toyman had scored and why he was dropped

My opinion of statisticians is well know but this takes it to the next level.

So according to the garden gnome if some one made 95 every time they batted they wont make his team, SMH
 

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Mitch Marsh needs the Shane Watson treatment.

Watson kept saying he wanted to open the batting - eventually he was told he was a #6 all-rounder and we were better for it.

Marsh is a useful seam bowler who can score handy runs. He’s not and never will be a top-order batsman. Unfortunately his biggest cheerleader is the f**king coach.
 

Eelectrica

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What part of SMarsh is done doesn't Langer get.
Come on Pakistan, don't let the Marshes score in the ODI's. Would be the ultimate troll though if they do.

Persisting with Shaun Marsh is like walking on a treadmill that's set to sprint.
 
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Tommy Smith

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"You need to be a good bloke".

Funny that; because I've distinctly got the feeling that Renshaw has been treated too harshly the past 18 months precisely because he is such a softly spoken, nice bloke.

"He needs to spit more venom" or some shit. That was the Boof approach anyway.
 

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