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The Las Vegas Thread

i0Nic

i0Nic

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My Global round NRL + SL proposal

Abu Dhabi - 25k Hazza bin Zayed Stadium - 2 games (NRL + SL)
Hong Kong - 50k Kai Tek Stadium - 2 games (NRL + SL)
Tokyo - 50k Ajinomoto Stadium - 2 games (NRL + SL)
Singapore - 30k NS Square (floating stadium) - 1 game (NRL)
London - 60k Tottenham hotspur stadium - 3 games ( NRL + SL + SL)
Paris - 50k Park De Princes - 2 games (NRL + SL)
Las Vegas - 60k Allegiant Stadium - 3 games (NRL + NRL + SL)
Hawaii - 25k Aloha Stadium - 1 game (NRL)

Principles
- Pairing up with SL to boost SL as well as increase attendances
- Bigger stadiums get more games, smaller stadiums less games
- Need to have some flashy venues, the above includes new stadiums in HK and Singapore right on the waterfront, and the brilliant new Tottenham stadium
- Exotic but safe destinations good for AU/NZ/UK travellers
- Decent amount of expats that live there

This round could have over 120k league travellers from Australia, NZ and UK pouring into these stadiums. If we can also attract another 150k mix of locals and expats across these locations will mean close to 300k people around the world attending professional level rugby league matches in one massive round. We should be aiming for an average of 75% filling these stadium capacities.
 
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Maximus

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Geez some of you are more delusional than the big footy trolls we've had to deal with over the last decade.

320k people going to turn up to NRL games in 7 different countries, half of which have never even heard of the NRL.

The NFL, a much bigger, and much more popular sport spent 10 years only going to London before expanding their games, and it was 15 years in just England and Mexico before expanding outside of that. They've never even played 2 international games on the same weekend. But after 2 years in Vegas, we are talking about playing a whole round all over the world and claiming it will be a massive success. More delusional than afl fans who thought they'd be a big success in China.
 
i0Nic

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Maximus said:
Geez some of you are more delusional than the big footy trolls we've had to deal with over the last decade.

320k people going to turn up to NRL games in 7 different countries, half of which have never even heard of the NRL.

The NFL, a much bigger, and much more popular sport spent 10 years only going to London before expanding their games, and it was 15 years in just England and Mexico before expanding outside of that. They've never even played 2 international games on the same weekend. But after 2 years in Vegas, we are talking about playing a whole round all over the world and claiming it will be a massive success. More delusional than afl fans who thought they'd be a big success in China.
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It's not delusional at all.

20k Aussies from 4 clubs go to Vegas, so that's 5k per NRL club. Add that for all 19 clubs = 95k from NRL

10k brits travel from 2 clubs, so that's another 5k per SL club. Add all 14 clubs = 70k.

So that's a potential of 165k travellers, above I put a more conservative figure of 120k forward. I believe this is definitely achieavable.

Also we know from Vegas we get about 15k locals + expats going. If we expand that from 1 location to 8 as per my proposal that's about 120k. Now some of the other locations I think we'll get even more local fans going than Vegas like London and Paris as they're more familiar with the game and more expats, and SIngapore and Japan for the novelty.

So I totally think ~200-250k attendance in the conservative range is very possible, with a 240-270k range as more optimistic. We don't have to fill all these stadiums as I mentioned, if we get 35k+ to some of those larger venues that's a still a win.

Also I think this is something the NRL could work toward, not saying it has to happen in 2027 in this format.

But also you can't compare with the NFL. The production costs and opportunity cost to stage an NFL game overseas is so much larger than an NRL game. We can also tag team with Super League to bring more efficiencies and attendees.
 
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Maximus

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i0Nic said:
It's not delusional at all.

20k Aussies from 4 clubs go to Vegas, so that's 5k per NRL club. Add that for all 19 clubs = 95k from NRL

10k brits travel from 2 clubs, so that's another 5k per SL club. Add all 14 clubs = 70k.

So that's a potential of 165k travellers, above I put a more conservative figure of 120k forward. I believe this is definitely achieavable.

Also we know from Vegas we get about 15k locals + expats going. If we expand that from 1 location to 8 as per my proposal that's about 120k. Now some of the other locations I think we'll get even more local fans going than Vegas like London and Paris as they're more familiar with the game and more expats, and SIngapore and Japan for the novelty.

So I totally think ~200-250k attendance in the conservative range is very possible, with a 240-270k range as more optimistic.

Also I think this is something the NRL could work toward, not saying it has to happen in 2027 in this format.
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Only 5k travelling for the first games when they only play once every 4 or 5 years is not good. That's going to be far worse when it's every year.

It's delusional garbage.

We can't even get significant support among Asians who live in Australia, but apparently we are going to get massive crowds in Asia for a sport that none of them have ever heard of.
 
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Gobsmacked

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Maximus said:
Geez some of you are more delusional than the big footy trolls we've had to deal with over the last decade.

320k people going to turn up to NRL games in 7 different countries, half of which have never even heard of the NRL.

The NFL, a much bigger, and much more popular sport spent 10 years only going to London before expanding their games, and it was 15 years in just England and Mexico before expanding outside of that. They've never even played 2 international games on the same weekend. But after 2 years in Vegas, we are talking about playing a whole round all over the world and claiming it will be a massive success. More delusional than afl fans who thought they'd be a big success in China.
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These are some of the dumbest comparisons in history.
You have no brain.
 
i0Nic

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Maximus said:
Only 5k travelling for the first games when they only play once every 4 or 5 years is not good. That's going to be far worse when it's every year.
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Hence I put 120k travllers not 165k in my proposal, taking this into consideration.
Maximus said:
It's delusional garbage.

We can't even get significant support among Asians who live in Australia, but apparently we are going to get massive crowds in Asia for a sport that none of them have ever heard of.
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These are event games, by that logic how do we get 15k people in Vegas locals/visitors going but not 15k Asians that live in Burwood?

I'm sure you would've said the same thing about Vegas round, you probably didn't think more than 10k would turn up.
 
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Gobsmacked

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i0Nic said:
It's not delusional at all.

20k Aussies from 4 clubs go to Vegas, so that's 5k per NRL club. Add that for all 19 clubs = 95k from NRL

10k brits travel from 2 clubs, so that's another 5k per SL club. Add all 14 clubs = 70k.

So that's a potential of 165k travellers, above I put a more conservative figure of 120k forward. I believe this is definitely achieavable.

Also we know from Vegas we get about 15k locals + expats going. If we expand that from 1 location to 8 as per my proposal that's about 120k. Now some of the other locations I think we'll get even more local fans going than Vegas like London and Paris as they're more familiar with the game and more expats, and SIngapore and Japan for the novelty.

So I totally think ~200-250k attendance in the conservative range is very possible, with a 240-270k range as more optimistic. We don't have to fill all these stadiums as I mentioned, if we get 35k+ to some of those larger venues that's a still a win.

Also I think this is something the NRL could work toward, not saying it has to happen in 2027 in this format.

But also you can't compare with the NFL. The production costs and opportunity cost to stage an NFL game overseas is so much larger than an NRL game. We can also tag team with Super League to bring more efficiencies and attendees.
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The USA is the biggest commercial market in the world.. by a lot!! To get a place in the world to come close to the money and exposure it get in it's own backyard is almost impossible.

There's very little reason for the NFL to even do it, it's a novelty.

There's no correlation in any way shape or form to the NFL, the NFL is American.. Rugby league is played globally, it's professional in 5 different countries, has a world cup..

Clicking " show ignored" .. AKA " what did the window washer say"
 
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Maximus

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i0Nic said:
Hence I put 120k travllers not 165k in my proposal, taking this into consideration.

These are event games, by that logic how do we get 15k people in Vegas locals/visitors going but not 15k Asians that live in Burwood?

I'm sure you would've said the same thing about Vegas round, you probably didn't think more than 10k would turn up.
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An event game for us, not for people who have never heard of the sport in countries that aren't big on contact sports.
 
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Gobsmacked

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Another interesting take on Japan's case to be part of global round is a record number of Australians went to Japan last year. Currently sitting at a whopping 1 million plus!
That Japan as a whole country of course but for some context, Vegas is around 250k

So we're not short of Aussies traveling to Japan.
I've always wanted to to go and a double header in Tokyo would tip the scales for me to go.
 
Mike Oxbigg

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The Kerrigan round. Tell 'em they're dreamin'.
I go to another country to experience the local culture, not attend a game that i could do at home.
 
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