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The Stadium Saga...

joejoe

Juniors
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I think 28,000 is a good figure.

A good balance between atmosphere and capacity.

but what gets me is, why don't they build stadiums with upgrading in mind, so in the future a second tier can easily be added?
 

Dakink

Bench
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Any further developments regarding the stadium??

What is the email address to register interest in 2007 season tickets?
 

DIEHARD

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Our price is right, insists council
12Jul05


COUNCILLORS have set their price limit and they are refusing to budge.

If they can't get owner the Robina Land Corporation to agree to it, the Gold Coast will lose its best site for a rugby league stadium.

The council yesterday gave CEO Dale Dickson three days to negotiate a lower price for their preferred site at Robina, near the train station.

If his bargaining efforts fail, the council will purchase a different site for the stadium.

Deputy Mayor David Power said whatever the site, it was highly like a decision would be made by Monday.

The desperate bid to push down the price for RLC's land was agreed to behind closed doors.

The Bulletin understands councillors were less than enthused by a price offer made by RLC last Friday, although Mayor Ron Clarke said at the time he was 'very happy' with it.

While they agreed Robina was the best option for the stadium, they were reluctant to pay top dollar for the prime piece of real estate.

RLC's first offer was understood to be in the order of $20 million, which was lowered substantially last week, according to the Mayor.

Council officers have also been investigating potential stadium sites at Nerang, Coomera and Reedy Creek, as well as the existing stadium at Carrara. It is understood the site at Nerang, near the train station, would need expensive hydraulics works because it was predominantly located on the floodplain.

If Robina falls through, it is under-stood many councillors are also reluctant to turn to Carrara, because it would shut out the future option of an AFL licence. The State Government has already offered to build and run a 25,000 seat stadium, provided the council coughs up the land.

During yesterday's co-ordination committee meeting, councillors also agreed to ask the State Government to consider a staged, three-year payment program for the purchase price of the rugby league site.

Earlier in the meeting, also behind closed doors, councillors were given a presentation on issues such as dimensions and access points from their stadium consultant, HOK Sport.

Yesterday's deliberations followed weeks of speculation about the stadium site.

In early June, business and sporting leaders complained about council delays in choosing a site.

However, Cr Clarke stood his ground, saying the council needed time to make the right decision, which was further delayed when councillors went on holidays for two weeks.


Source: GC BULLETIN

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0neye

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Our Budget

"Our City Budget is an $813 million dollar Budget. It’s the largest Capital Works programme ever brought down by Council. With $377m in the budget and a further $130m to be re-provided we will this year seek to fulfil a program in excess of half a billion dollars

all this money & they can't find 20 mill for the land , what a f**k up this is ;()
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Dakink

Bench
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Can we have Clark's email address again please?

We should let him know what we think of all this screwing around.
 

coldhardbitch

Juniors
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Forgotten land council's backyard blip
13Jul05

GOLD Coast City Council is considering a league stadium site it forgot it owned less than one kilometre from its own chambers at Nerang.

After more than six weeks of negotiations and investigations a big site, owned solely by the council, has just become an option.

It was only at the suggestion of area councillor Peter Young, during Monday's closed meeting, that council officers agreed to investigate the land.

"It does appear to be an oversight," said Cr Young yesterday. "We own this land outright, it's above flood level and it needs very little work it's a very real option."

The 12.9ha site is bordered by the train line and is next to the Pacific Motorway exit to Southport-Nerang Road.

"We could put in a train station right at the front door of the stadium yes, that's a cost but it's a lot less than buying land outright," said Cr Young. "It has great access to the motorway and while it has some hills for sure, we are specialists at earthworks."

He said another council-owned site next door could be used for car parking.

The revelation of a new site option came weeks after business and sporting leaders complained the council was not working quickly enough to snap up land for the stadium.

State Treasurer Terry Mackenroth has already offered to build and run a league stadium, provided the council provides the land.

Mayor Ron Clarke said Cr Young's site, which used to be a quarry, was a good alternative which officers would have a 'quick look at'.

"But part of the problem with that one is it is virtually too big, we would waste the rest of the land in order to put a stadium there," he said.

Deputy Mayor David Power, also involved in negotiations, said the site had not previously been considered as it was 'highly impractical'.

He said a new train station would cost several million dollars and the cost of earthworks and excavating hard rock would be enormous.

On Monday, councillors set a price limit for their preferred site at Robina and gave chief executive officer Dale Dickson three days to haggle on a price with land owner Robina Land Corporation (RLC).

Councillors were less than impressed by RLC's revised price offer, understood to be significantly higher than an independent valuation the council had received.

Land on the Nerang floodplain is still under consideration if the RLC negotiations fail.
 

coldhardbitch

Juniors
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694
What The Bulletin thinks
13Jul05

Robina the

correct call

for stadium

WHOOPS! Now that's an oversight.

While the city has agonised over whether the Gold Coast City Council will get its act together in providing its part of a deal that will deliver a new stadium to be home for our yet-to-be-named National Rugby League team, the council apparently forgot according to councillor Peter Young that it owned a 13ha site near the motorway and the railway line at Nerang.

That's rather perplexing, given the land is a matter of a few hundred metres from the council's Nerang chambers.

The land is separate from another block at Nerang earmarked as a possible site for a stadium the State Government has promised to build, but which lies on the floodplain and would have to be bought.

At this point, Robina is the preferred option, provided the council and the Robina Land Corporation are able to settle negotiations for the purchase of a site next to the Robina railway station.

Robina enjoys ideal access for a complex catering for large sports crowds easy road access to the M1, plenty of land for parking and, importantly, a railway station within easy walking distance.

But the sudden recollection that the council owns land at Nerang, coming as late as it has as councillors and senior officials try to come to a decision on a site within days, presents an interesting option.

Already owning the land is a handy start, but of course the site also presents problems.

The railway line might run near by, but there is no station and the site appears to demand a lot of preparation before a stadium can be built. Where would the roads, parking facilities, bus pick-up and set-down areas be positioned?

And is construction of an alternative Nerang station next to the stadium, just for use on game days, the sort of project the Government will agree to or be prepared to finance?

The council, meanwhile, is investigating the new Nerang option which, of course, is its own block of land at the last minute and after weeks of stumbling along in such a way with this issue that it has found itself criticised time and again for dragging the chain.

With the latest 'oversight', the question is whether the authority forgot about the block, which is embarrassing, or knew of the land but preferred to keep it under wraps for some other purpose.

The cost of acquiring land for this project however, should not be the sole deter-mining factor.

The Gold Coast should look to Lang Park, which was developed into the magnificent Suncorp Stadium, to learn what works.

The key there has been recognition that going to the football has become much more than simply watching a game.

Plonking the Gold Coast's new stadium in a virtual desert will only repeat the folly of Carrara.

Many heading for Lang Park nowadays leave early on the train, perhaps enjoy a couple of pre-game drinks somewhere in the precinct, then after the football head to the hotels and entertainment of Caxton Street and the city or the restaurants of Park Road.

Therein lies the key to success the recognition that going to the footy now is an entertainment experience rather than just 80 minutes of watching a game and maybe munching on a pie.

A decision has to be made. The council has to make up its mind and get on with it.

With Robina obviously the best location and, as the council has often stated, the centre of the Gold Coast, the city may have to pay more than it wants to for the site.

Better though to pay a premium now rather than suffer another stadium failure.
 

0neye

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ring Ronnie ring ring ring ;()

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DIEHARD

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Top stadium for few dollars more
16Jul05


Two million dollars could be the difference between a first-rate rugby league stadium and the second-best option.

That's the amount the city council is baulking over when it comes to the choice between Robina and Nerang.

In a sign that land owner Robina Land Corporation might still come to the party, however, chief executive Richard Wyatt last night said he was doing his best to seal the deal.

"We'll be sharpening our pencils very fine over the weekend before we get back to them (councillors) on Monday," he said.

"We're going to do our best to bring the stadium to Robina."

Four days after the council gave CEO Dale Dickson an ultimatum to negotiate a better price for Robina, the bidding war over the stadium has well and truly heated up.

It is understood the owners of the Nerang stadium option played hard ball yesterday, bringing the price tag for their 54ha piece of land down significantly in a tactical bid to stay in the running.

On Monday, councillors considered an offer from RLC of more than $17 million for its prime, five-hectare site alongside the Robina railway station.

They were less than enthused, however, because it was accompanied by an independent valuation which said the land was worth several million dollars less.

Councillors asked Mr Dickson to whittle down the price by at least $2 million, to between $12 and $15 million.

Both Mr Wyatt and Mr Dickson refused to comment on prices. However, Mr Dickson said he was 'hopeful' RLC would change its bottom line.

"The ball is in Robina Land Corporation's court now," he said. "I remain hopeful that there will be some revision of the price.

"At the end of the day it's a commercial negotiation and I don't know what their likely response will be."

Acting Mayor David Power said Robina was still the council's preferred site.

"We are hoping that Robina Land Corporation will be a good corporate citizen and recognise the strong economic benefit a stadium will bring to that centre. We're dealing with public funds here," he said.

The eagerly anticipated land decision is the subject of Monday's council meeting, when councillors are expected to make the final decision between Robina and Nerang. The existing Carrara stadium is still an option as well, although an unlikely one.

While the business and sporting communities have been critical of the amount of time the council has taken, there could be further delays.

Cr Bob La Castra, an avid supporter of the rugby league bid, yesterday said he would suggest delaying the decision another two weeks if the Robina price did not come down. "We don't want to be held to ransom ... if it takes a couple more weeks it would be an abrogation of our responsibility not to do it," he said.

Source: Gold Coast Bulletin
 

DIEHARD

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BTW guys I made this thread a sticky, so keep an eye on it.

I'm not a great fan of sticky topics, so I'll try to keep them to a min, but I don't think one for official signings and one for news on the stadium development is too over board.
 

nqboy

First Grade
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DIEHARD said:
BTW guys I made this thread a sticky, so keep an eye on it.

I'm not a great fan of sticky topics, so I'll try to keep them to a min, but I don't think one for official signings and one for news on the stadium development is too over board.
Absolutely not. The biggest news in the NRL for years can carry two stickys.
 

DIEHARD

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Stadium land price slashed
18Jul05


Just as the end is near in the search for land for a Gold Coast NRL stadium, the Nerang bid team has upped the ante in a desperate attempt to score a winning try.

Japanese land owner Club Cavill yesterday slashed its asking price by $8 million in a bid to outdo the council favoured Robina site.

Project manager Sime Curko said the company was now asking only $16 million for land near the Nerang railway station, down from $24 million.

The move has heated up the bidding war, with Club Cavill coming in at more than $1 million less than its Robina rival, the Robina Land Corporation.

Club Cavill played hard ball after RLC last week reduced its asking price for its five hectare site near the train station from more than $20 million to $17.5 million.

RLC executives are due to come back to the council with their final offer this morning.

The council plans to make its final decision about the land later this afternoon.

Mr Curko threw in an added incentive yesterday when he said Club Cavill would complete any required earthworks and hydraulics on the Nerang site.

Many councillors have expressed concern that the Nerang site is on the flood plain, but Mr Curko said all the site's hydraulics had been approved.

Club Cavill is offering 16 hectares of its 57 hectare site, while the RLC has put up five hectares of its Robina land.

Mr Curko said the State Government, which has offered to build the stadium provided the council provides the land, preferred a seven hectare site.

"Our site had plenty of room and because we are doing the hydraulics, we will deliver them the land ready to build on straight away," said Mr Curko.

Source: Gold Coast Bulletin
 
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