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Tidus_Raider said:Ofcourse i'm going to use this argument. You seem to think that 400, 000 people living in Macarthur equates to a die hard RL population. Let me remind you that these people are moving from other areas to Macarthur. And most of the people moving are young families in inner-sydney unable to pay big bucks for an inner city house so they go to the outskirts where property is much cheaper. Wouldn't these "supporters" already follow a club. Why should they jump onto the Western Suburbs bandwagon?
OF course people are moving in, but what do they do when they get here? They have children. That's why we have the youngest population profile of the city. They go with dad to the local ground and become lifelong supporters, it's pretty simple if you can think beyond 1+1. This is an argument of why the team should be here for the next 50-100 years. Short term don't mean sh*t - it's the long term that matters. You're so obsessed by next week you can't see beyond your own nose.
that's fair enough, but it sounds like a lot of teams fall a long way short of your standards for crowds. Maybe we should just stop mucking about and cut them? It's been 10 years since the Raiders ever managed a home average over 15k so they should go.We differ greatly then on the interpretation of what a good crowd is. I'll leave it at that.
Make up you mind. Does it stop at one or two or does it include St George and Illawarra. And if all those clubs are brought back (which totals 4) then there is no doubt going to be a push for Norths to be brought back in.
You are not talking about 17 or 18. You are taking about possibly 21 teams.
What happened to one or two teams? First it's Wests. Then Balmain. Then the Saints and the Steelers and now it's North Sydney. North Sydney is NOT a relocated side by the way.
ok as you clearly failed kindergarten maths I'll take it s l o w. If Wests and Balmain come back that isn't two new teams, it's 1. Wests + Balmain = Wests Tigers + 1, are following this? Net gain ONE team. Unless of course you're thinking that we'd have Wests, Balmain, AND the Wests Tigers all running around at the same time.
Can I just check you've got that? Most of the rest of your posts seem to indicate you are literate at least, but not so numerate eh?
So Wests, Balmain and Norths = 18 teams (inc gold coast) an NET gain of 2. I've already said I don't believe St Gilla want to split, they haven't made any noises about it, but even if they did that would still only be a further net gain of ONE. If all the JV's split (which I don't believe is likely), and all the teams were reinstated along with GC you are still only at 19, where the hell did you get 21 from man?
If regional clubs can't find sponsors because all the sponsorship dollars are being eatne up by Sydney clubs we might as well run a Sydney Rugby League.
It's a wrong headed argument. Regional clubs will always be at a disadvantage to Sydney clubs, because far more business is based in Sydney. It wouldn't matter if there were only one Sydney club it wouldn't make Sydney businesses go out and sponsor regional clubs. It just don't work like that. More Sydney clubs actually makes it easier for the regional clubs to compete with them rather than less. The regional clubs just don't attract the big companies. They will always need to generate the vast majority of their sponsorship money close to home. Sydney clubs just don't compete in the same sponsorship pool as the regionals except at the margins.
Now you are contradicting yourself. Above you said that the 1997 competition was so uneven partly beacause of the amount of team therefore the playing talent was spread thin. Now your saying players grow on trees. If that's the case then why don't QLD cup players have NRL contracts? Why aren't all country players contracted to clubs. Why do clubs like the Roosters, Raiders and Melbourne have to go scouting for players in QLD? Players might grow on trees, but the reason the NRL is as exciting as it is is because we have the cream of the crop. Lets have 3 or 4 more teams, but if you think the playing standard will remain the same the you dreaming. How many good halfbacks are running around? How many good front rowers?
No contradiction at all. Again it's short term versus long term. There used to be 12 clubs. They added your mob and Illawarra. For a few years you struggled but you were smart and developed your juniors, then kids like Daley, Lazzo, and Clyde came along. It didn't take that long. It happens with all clubs, some faster than others. Of course there would be a drop in the short term - I have never once denied it, but so what? Short term pain for long term gain - it's the way of any investment in any walk of life. Of course the next year the number of top quality halves is a fair chance of not going up, just because the new teams have come in, but then again it might. Bringing the Mariners in gave Kimmorley the chance to be a first grader that he was never going to get at the Knights. That's what I'm talking about. Guys playing reggies somewhere get a shot somewhere else and turn out to better than anyone expected - it happens each and every year. More teams would just accelerate it.
Since when is Liverpool part of the Macarthur area. If anything then Liverpool is above all else Bulldogs territory.
Never said it was part of the Macarthur region, it's an adjoining region that is as much part of Wests territory as Macarthur, hence Liverpool - Macarthur. Just because the dogs were looking to take it over doesn't make it Bulldog territory. Liverpool has always been part of Wests Junior territory since the move to Campbelltown. We should always have done more in that end of our territory, but it's Wests territory.