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Titans game

Redhoopz

Juniors
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Two things to come out of yesterdays game.

1. I though Joey made a great point about our attack. He said all our energy goes into our set plays and the players forget about playing what's in front of them; we are too structured. It's all about getting to certain points on the field to set up for the big shift, but it's predictable.

2. The Titans were ripe for the picking. You could see the lack of desire in their defence (they had nothing to play for) and the Cooper/Marshall tries showed that. They had nothing to lose and threw the ball around in an attempt to win the game, whilst we simply played not to lose.

We don't deserve to play finals football.

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They're playing like they don't want to be in the finals. The fact that the Titans who had roughly 9 players out, showed more desperation to get the result, then the team that needed to win to cement their place in the finals says it all...

Dragons should have killed the game off in the first half, they had enough ball and were physically all over the Titans, instead they let silly errors creep into the game and started playing too sideways instead on laying the platform and building on it.

Aikten had a shocker, how you make a mistake from the kick off after 25 rounds is pretty poor.

Forget the refs calls, the Dragons lost it from playing poor in the second half and making stupid decisions/mistakes that cost them points i.e. short drop out when your 4 in front.
 

Wittenberg

Juniors
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1,140
I have to agree with Pinkmoon. Our attack is too structured. Either extra man or wrap around play to attempt to get an overlap or one or two passes wide then turn back to a forward coming back on inside angle. Worked well at beginning of year but now very,very predictable. Some of our best tries or individual efforts have come from broken play where the plays have failed or they have been rushed into alternatives by the opposition. I am not for chancing our arm in our own half, but let's try playing 'Tigers' footy when we are in their half. We cannot do worse than yesterday.
 

hazzbeen

Bench
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4,617
+1

They're playing like they don't want to be in the finals. The fact that the Titans who had roughly 9 players out, showed more desperation to get the result, then the team that needed to win to cement their place in the finals says it all...

Dragons should have killed the game off in the first half, they had enough ball and were physically all over the Titans, instead they let silly errors creep into the game and started playing too sideways instead on laying the platform and building on it.

Aikten had a shocker, how you make a mistake from the kick off after 25 rounds is pretty poor.

Forget the refs calls, the Dragons lost it from playing poor in the second half and making stupid decisions/mistakes that cost them points i.e. short drop out when your 4 in front.

Spot on mate..how can you blame anyone other than themselves. They should never have got themselves into the position that they had to chase points with 4 min to go after being in front most of the game..... Have said before they have to play whats in front of them to many set plays. The two tries we did score one was from a ball that went to ground and Wdidop scooping up, the other a half volley pick up that Benji had to take and change his angle of his run.
 
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Vasilevsky

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the other a half volley pick up that Benji had to take and change his angle of his run.

Which is the problem with Mitch Rein. His defense is excellent and his running out of dummy half very good but yesterday really underlined his inability to consistently pass well out of dummy half.
 

Dorsai

Juniors
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277
I agree that our attack is structured up the wazzoo. Trouble is, every other team knows each set play which makes them ineffective. Our unstructured play however revolves around running sideways and hoping something opens up. Sorry does not work either.

We have been duped into believing this coach is the next best thing. Price was the next best thing. McGregor now is the next best thing. I am sorry if I would prefer our coach to have some runs on the board in the NRL with a proven track record.

I would also prefer our coach to say "No, they were crap on the field and we need to go back and start again. I take responsibility as much as the players should" What we get is, "there are a few things that need improving but overall things are looking better" Price said it, McGregor is saying it. Millward is saying it.

Those getting the REDV emails would see the dust off is passed onto a different person each week. Someone always has something to say that is positive. The trouble being that when we have not performed we still get the positive rubbish instead of the hand going up saying guilty as charged.

I have no problem in seeing the Dragons get beat by a better side. I have no problems seeing them beaten after putting in 100%. The same goes when they win. Put in the effort or tell us what you are doing to resolve the issue.

I have banged on about this before and I cannot pin down exactly when this attitude became the norm at the Dragons but I know it was not there in the nineties.

Medicrity is an accepted outcome at our club.

"They tried hard and we should be happy we sit were we do on the ladder"

"All in all if we make the semis its been a good year, it holds well for a better season next year"

"We have seen a lot of improvement out of the side this year in certain quarters which makes us believe we will be a better force next year"

"We just need to have had a few decisions go our way and we would have had a different result this year, next year will be different"

"The spirit in the side is that they believe in each other and are making a positive change towards being a better side next year"

Does any of this BS sound familiar? We have, somewhere along the line, become a team that accepts mediocrity and the belief in "next year"

Why are Dragons supporters more vocal than others? Why is it that you will find commentators or reporters saying "the vocal Kogarah contingent" or "the Dragons supporters are out for blood again"

I am proud to be a Dragons supporter and happy to let them have a piece of my mind if i do not see the effort or I get the "we saw some good points to improve upon" run around. Dragons supporters expect results and expect our team to be damn proud to put that jersey on.

But, mediocrity is being fed to us and we are beginning to accept the rhetoric. Next Year. Good foundation. Some luck. Positive points. Considering were we were we are dong ok.

Sorry. I do not want to hear that. I want to hear what they are doing to fix it. I want to see the coach telling the team to shape up. See players dropped for poor form, young players blooded and the supporters told why. If you are keeping a young player on the books you obviously feel he is stepping up. Show some faith and give him a go. Be honest with the supporters and the supporters will back you.
 

Dorsai

Juniors
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277
And sorry, one last point.

Do away with this alternative jersey crap.

Please tell me which club in the league has a white jersey with a red v which will get confused with our jumper.

Its a marketing ploy to gouge out the last dollar from us supporters. Are the Broncos up to jersey 4382 yet?

One jersey is all we need. Tell me how the titans jersey clashed with our Red V yesterday?

We should have one jersey and one jersey only. No issues with variations for ANZAC day or the nines, as long as the RED V is there.
 

BennyV

Referee
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The fact THAT our attack is structured is not the issue. Melbourne play structured. Rooster play structured. Bronco's play structured. It works. The issue is the WAY our attack is structure. Shitty angle, terrible timing, no decoy runners and worst of all, no ACTUAL options for our halves. When Benjo or Gareth get the ball, they really only have the option to run themselves or pass to a single realistic receiver, and it only ever works if the opposition misread the play. They both have the ability to assess a situation on the run and pick a good option, but the problem is that the option isnt there because those off-the-ball runners are all over the f**king place.

Roosters are probably the best example - on their regular attacking play, Maloney will get the ball 2 passes wide, he will have 2 front runners to choose from (usually a lock and second rower), a fullback sweeping around or the option for a long cut out to the centre, and usually the timing of all players are good enough that he just needs to pick the right one based on the defence. It's not always executed perfectly and he doesn't always choose the best option, but its a hell of a lot better than the crap we are dishing up!
 

Fingerbang

Bench
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On that last Taylor try....when he stood there looking at the ball on the ground for a few seconds after being played, for the life of me I have no idea why our guys didn't just dive on it. They stood there staring at it along with Taylor. Once the ball has been rucked back, it is play on. Same as if a ball is played and there is no dummy half. Worst thing that could have happened is we get penalized for not square, but that close to the line you wouldn't have to be square to dive on it.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.
 
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Vasilevsky

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And sorry, one last point.

Do away with this alternative jersey crap.

Please tell me which club in the league has a white jersey with a red v which will get confused with our jumper.

Its a marketing ploy to gouge out the last dollar from us supporters. Are the Broncos up to jersey 4382 yet?

One jersey is all we need. Tell me how the titans jersey clashed with our Red V yesterday?

We should have one jersey and one jersey only. No issues with variations for ANZAC day or the nines, as long as the RED V is there.

I believe it's an NRL requirement due to the JV. But I do get the impression, correct or not, they save their worst for the jersey from yesterday.
 
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Vasilevsky

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On that last Taylor try....when he stood there looking at the ball on the ground for a few seconds after being played, for the life of me I have no idea why our guys didn't just dive on it. They stood there staring at it along with Taylor. Once the ball has been rucked back, it is play on. Same as if a ball is played and there is no dummy half. Worst thing that could have happened is we get penalized for not square, but that close to the line you wouldn't have to be square to dive on it.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

It was the last tackle. They were probably worried about giving away a penalty. If he had (JDB) a lot of people would be denouncing him for giving away a penalty at such a crucial stage. What is not open for debate is the criminal and embarrassing fact that game was that close with 4 min to go.
 

Mr Red

First Grade
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6,193
On that last Taylor try....when he stood there looking at the ball on the ground for a few seconds after being played, for the life of me I have no idea why our guys didn't just dive on it. They stood there staring at it along with Taylor. Once the ball has been rucked back, it is play on. Same as if a ball is played and there is no dummy half. Worst thing that could have happened is we get penalized for not square, but that close to the line you wouldn't have to be square to dive on it.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

was thinking the same. better to concede a penalty than risk a try.
and it was the delay in the play the ball that actually made Taylor's mind up to have a crack himself. if he got a clean play the ball i would think he would have passed.
Either way... Surely seeing a big man at dummy half 30cm's out on the last would ring alarm bells to the markers anyway???
 

The Nick

Bench
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2,660
And sorry, one last point.

Do away with this alternative jersey crap.

Please tell me which club in the league has a white jersey with a red v which will get confused with our jumper.

Its a marketing ploy to gouge out the last dollar from us supporters. Are the Broncos up to jersey 4382 yet?

One jersey is all we need. Tell me how the titans jersey clashed with our Red V yesterday?

We should have one jersey and one jersey only. No issues with variations for ANZAC day or the nines, as long as the RED V is there.

First of all one jersey set will not last an entire season. Wearing the alternative jersey a few games a year helps prevent excessive wear and tear.

Second of all, yes alternative jerseys are a proven revenue raiser, hence why EVERY single NRL team utilises them. Most teams more so than us (I don't even know what the main Warriors strip or official team colours are). Should our financially struggling club not wear a predominately red jersey a few games a year just because you can't handle the colour?

Third and final, does the jersey effect our team's performance?
 

The Nick

Bench
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2,660
On that last Taylor try....when he stood there looking at the ball on the ground for a few seconds after being played, for the life of me I have no idea why our guys didn't just dive on it. They stood there staring at it along with Taylor. Once the ball has been rucked back, it is play on. Same as if a ball is played and there is no dummy half. Worst thing that could have happened is we get penalized for not square, but that close to the line you wouldn't have to be square to dive on it.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

There has been a direction from NRL to clean the ruck right up - you'll notice a lot of hookers this year are leaving the ball on the ground for that extra second knowing they have the time.

That being said, I thought our defenders around the ruck (Widdop and somebody else, can't remember) were extremely lax considering it was obvious Taylor was going to dive over. a 120kg forward doesn't jump into hooker at the line to get a quick pass to his halfback. They weren't even in a position to stop him. That try was unacceptable.
 
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Vasilevsky

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First of all one jersey set will not last an entire season. Wearing the alternative jersey a few games a year helps prevent excessive wear and tear.

Your other points make sense but this is patently absurd. They get the jerseys from China and those Chinese homies pump them out for about $5.00 a pop and sell them for about $7.00 when bought in bulk. And I'm erring on the side of being more expensive.
 

Blood Shot Eyes

First Grade
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6,454
I heard Dylan Farrell has not scored a try this year.
He would have to be the only winger in the dragons history not to score a try in a season ?
Unless , he scores against the Tigers !!!
This really does show , we really do need a fast , stronger winger .

Can you score an own try like they score own goals in Soccer...just sayin
 

The Nick

Bench
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2,660
Your other points make sense but this is patently absurd. They get the jerseys from China and those Chinese homies pump them out for about $5.00 a pop and sell them for about $7.00 when bought in bulk. And I'm erring on the side of being more expensive.

Please point out to me where you can purchase a set of 35 NRL standard jerseys for $245 (@ $7 each). I will become a importer/distributor and get disgustingly rich off the back of insanley inflated prices, considering most Rugby League clubs pay in excess of $2,500 for sub par quality jerseys.

I knew you would be good for something, Vaseline.
 

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