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To hell with it - time for mass changes.

Timbo

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Furner needs to grow a pair and make the necessary changes next week.

He's a f**king woeful coach but we'll be stuck with him for as long as his big brother is calling the shots, so we may as well hope he throws the playbook to the wind and gives some other guys a run next week.

So many people deserve to be punted. Mostly, it's the guys who are supposed to be our guiding lights.

So here's how I'd like us to line up next week:

1-J.Dugan
2-P.Graham
3-D.Vidot
4-J.Croker
5-J.Monaghan (c)
6-J.McCrone
7-M.Smith
8-D.Joyce
9-S.Flanagan
10-D.Shillington (if fit)
11-B.Harrison
12-J.Picker
13-S.Fensom

14-J.Thompson
15-T.Thurling
16-N.Plum
17-T.Waddell

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Only change to the outside backs could be Brad Cross for Jarrod Croker, who has been ordinary of late.

Tongue, Campese, Buttriss and Herbert are meant to be the guys showing us the way. They have done sweet f**k all for the last month, and I'm sorry. I don't care who you are, what you've done or what your reputation is, piss off to Souths-Logan and remember how to play f**king football you bunch of overpaid hacks.

But Furner won't have the guts to do it. We'll see the same next week.

f**king disgraceful today. The guys who won premierships in this great jersey should be ashamed of you.

And you, David Furner - be ashamed of yourself. You never should have accepted this position. We were in a place at the end of last season where we could have rocketed through the stratosphere with the right coach. Everyone knew it wasn't you, and we all think you only got the job because your brother runs the club. You've gone from being a club legend to one of the biggest jokes in the history of this proud club in the space of 20 weeks. How does it feel? If you resign now and make sure we get a decent replacement, at least a small shred of your legacy can be saved.

The way this club I love is run disgusts me. You don't deserve my loyalty as a fan, Canberra Raiders. You don't deserve any of us to be as loyal to this club as we are. About time you make a bold call and try and show us why we spend so much money every year only to watch you f**k up.
 

aussies1st

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Joe Picker has been poor this season, would prefer JT starting with Tilse on the bench.
I hope some club makes an offer to Furner as he is shocking. How on earth did we go from a team that was only behind the Premiers last season to this. We only lost Best and he has nothing to do with our structure.
 

spartan

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A well constructed thread,can't diagree with much of it.
I've watched the raiders last 3 matches and they've been insipid,uninspired and without leadership.I'm not sure what Campese's job is anymore and somebody needs to remind him what do to.
He's not talented enough just to turn up and coast through a game,needs benching because he's killed this footy team.
 

spartan

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A well constructed thread,can't diagree with much of it.
I've watched the raiders last 3 matches and they've been insipid,uninspired and without leadership.I'm not sure what Campese's job is anymore and somebody needs to remind him what do to.
He's not talented enough just to turn up and coast through a game,needs benching because he's killed this footy team.
 

Timbo

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A well constructed thread,can't diagree with much of it.
I've watched the raiders last 3 matches and they've been insipid,uninspired and without leadership.I'm not sure what Campese's job is anymore and somebody needs to remind him what do to.
He's not talented enough just to turn up and coast through a game,needs benching because he's killed this footy team.

I don't often agree with Mark Geyer - in general I think he's a gibbering idiot - but he hit this right on the head.

Give a bloke a 5 year contract for lots of money, and where is the pressure on him to perform anymore? There's none. Campese is earning so much money for so long that if he manages his cash well, he could retire at the end of this contract.

Why does he need to put his body on the line anymore? He doesn't. That's why guys like McCrone go so hard when they get a go - they're effectively singing for their supper!

Campese needs to play the rest of the season for Souths-Logan. He needs to be reminded what football is about.
 

nickraider

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That was f**king disgraceful AGAIN today. WTF is going on?!! Is there any pride in the Raiders jersey anymore? Furner has no idea as a coach. Campese is totally devoid of ideas and is playing crap. Tongue seems to have lost his desire, the list goes on. Absolute sh*t. Thanks Raiders for another woeful performance.
 

nickraider

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I don't often agree with Mark Geyer - in general I think he's a gibbering idiot - but he hit this right on the head.

Give a bloke a 5 year contract for lots of money, and where is the pressure on him to perform anymore? There's none. Campese is earning so much money for so long that if he manages his cash well, he could retire at the end of this contract.

Why does he need to put his body on the line anymore? He doesn't. That's why guys like McCrone go so hard when they get a go - they're effectively singing for their supper!

Campese needs to play the rest of the season for Souths-Logan. He needs to be reminded what football is about.

Campese has been crap since being given the arse by NSW. Should never have been given 5 year contract though, although it doesn't help when we've got a coach who has no idea about attacking football.
 
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1. Dugan
2.graham
3.stuart
4.Monas
5.Milne
6. Campo ( dont want to put him in )
7.McCrone
8.Tilse
9.Flanno
10.Shillo ( if fit ) Logan ( if fit )
11.J.Thompson
12.Harrison
13.Fensom

14.Plum
15. T.Thompson
16.Joyce
17.Thurling

Im at wits ends , I couldnt care if Campo played , nor Tongue I honestly on this years form/structure , Tongue has been poor , very poor.
we need aggression , we are the softest pack, we get pushed around by everyone. although he didnt want to play for us but we miss the Costigan aggro in tackling. there is no intimidation from our forwards. sad really.
 

Sydney_Raider

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Dugan
Croker
Stuart
Monaghan
Vidot
Campese
McCrone
Tongue
J Thompson
Harrison
Tilse
Buttriss
T Thompson

Bench: Thurling, Joyce, Cross and Fensom

Graham, Miller, Plum & Turner to SL. Cross can play centre or backrow. Considered Logan, if fit, but looking to the future. Campo and Joel Monaghan to be next on list for SL. I know there has been a lot of talk about Campo but Joel over the last couple of weeks has also been dreadful.
 

mongoose

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I didnt see the game today but losing at home to a team not in the top 8 by that many is really bad. Alarm bells should be ringing.

It is obvious the players are not responding to Furner's gameplans and have no confidence.

It is between us and the roosters for the wooden spoon and even the roosters are going better than us at the moment.
 

bileduct

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17,832
With this talk of the spoon, let's face it... We are playing like a wooden spoon team regardless of where we are on the ladder.

We deserve it, and we're probably gonna get it.

And when we do get it I'd like to see management, instead of asking members to bring new people to the club, convince their current members to renew for next year.

Why should I sit in the rain and witness that bullsh*t when I have Foxtel at home, where I can usually locate something edible if I get hungry.
 

shear_joy9

Coach
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raiders loss is the brumbies gain.

The raiders next season will be lucky to reach 3,000 members while the brumbies will almost certainly break their record and reach 10-12k.

Ofcourse it helps when you sign the world's best player in giteau and another few wallaby players.
 

Spike

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Tongue isn't as a good a player as Raiders fans believe him to be. He's not a hooker or a playmaker. All he is good for is to stick at lock and told to tackle all game.

And Mark Geyer is right about Campese. There's nothing stopping Campese from doing what he did last year, this year except desire. He has no need to play well while he can sit back and count his cash for the next 5 years. His pre 2008 form has truely set in for the long haul
 

bileduct

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Tongue isn't as a good a player as Raiders fans believe him to be. He's not a hooker or a playmaker. All he is good for is to stick at lock and told to tackle all game.

And Mark Geyer is right about Campese. There's nothing stopping Campese from doing what he did last year, this year except desire. He has no need to play well while he can sit back and count his cash for the next 5 years. His pre 2008 form has truely set in for the long haul
Agreed 100%.
 

bileduct

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raiders loss is the brumbies gain.
Not necessarily. I could never reduce myself to watch that sh*t.

Even when I worked for Fox Sports a few years back I would always sit in the production truck and read a book or something at Brumbies games.
 

matt

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Not necessarily. I could never reduce myself to watch that sh*t.

Even when I worked for Fox Sports a few years back I would always sit in the production truck and read a book or something at Brumbies games.

:lol:
 

edabomb

First Grade
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Furner needs to grow a pair and make the necessary changes next week.

He's a f**king woeful coach but we'll be stuck with him for as long as his big brother is calling the shots, so we may as well hope he throws the playbook to the wind and gives some other guys a run next week.

So many people deserve to be punted. Mostly, it's the guys who are supposed to be our guiding lights.

So here's how I'd like us to line up next week:

1-J.Dugan
2-P.Graham
3-D.Vidot
4-J.Croker
5-J.Monaghan (c)
6-J.McCrone
7-M.Smith
8-D.Joyce
9-S.Flanagan
10-D.Shillington (if fit)
11-B.Harrison
12-J.Picker
13-S.Fensom

14-J.Thompson
15-T.Thurling
16-N.Plum
17-T.Waddell

------------------

Only change to the outside backs could be Brad Cross for Jarrod Croker, who has been ordinary of late.

Tongue, Campese, Buttriss and Herbert are meant to be the guys showing us the way. They have done sweet f**k all for the last month, and I'm sorry. I don't care who you are, what you've done or what your reputation is, piss off to Souths-Logan and remember how to play f**king football you bunch of overpaid hacks.

But Furner won't have the guts to do it. We'll see the same next week.

f**king disgraceful today. The guys who won premierships in this great jersey should be ashamed of you.

And you, David Furner - be ashamed of yourself. You never should have accepted this position. We were in a place at the end of last season where we could have rocketed through the stratosphere with the right coach. Everyone knew it wasn't you, and we all think you only got the job because your brother runs the club. You've gone from being a club legend to one of the biggest jokes in the history of this proud club in the space of 20 weeks. How does it feel? If you resign now and make sure we get a decent replacement, at least a small shred of your legacy can be saved.

The way this club I love is run disgusts me. You don't deserve my loyalty as a fan, Canberra Raiders. You don't deserve any of us to be as loyal to this club as we are. About time you make a bold call and try and show us why we spend so much money every year only to watch you f**k up.

Come on guys this is no time to panic, we were clearly hampered by Tongue not starting at 9 :lol:
 
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