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Todd Greenberg has pretty much said one Sydney team will be relocated.

Stallion

First Grade
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We've already been through all of this in the past too. If Shute Shield can pull 10k crowds in the third teir of RU, then Norths and Manly can do it in the second teir of RL. It just needs a bit of effort put into the second teir to make it happen. We don't need NRL clubs to fend off Shute Shield clubs in an area that has always been a stronghold heartland for RU.

No. It doesn't work that way! Fans that historically are used to top grade do not follow lower tier status. We are discussing top flight clubs that are known and supported Australia wide. For instance the support of the Bears has been automatically decreased by the Bears being cut from the NRL. As a consequence the derby rival in Manly Warringah has become isolated and northern Sydney has become a growth pot for other codes like union and AFL. That's what has happened yet for some odd reason some on this site cannot see the correlation between losing a top flight club and loss of fan interest along with participation numbers ? !
 

titoelcolombiano

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No. It doesn't work that way! Fans that historically are used to top grade do not follow lower tier status. We are discussing top flight clubs that are known and supported Australia wide. For instance the support of the Bears has been automatically decreased by the Bears being cut from the NRL. As a consequence the derby rival in Manly Warringah has become isolated and northern Sydney has become a growth pot for other codes like union and AFL. That's what has happened yet for some odd reason some on this site cannot see the correlation between losing a top flight club and loss of fan interest along with participation numbers ? !

Yet the entire Shute Shield that used to be top teir before Super Rugby but now is third teir can do it. Right :rolleyes:

Melbourne has become a growth pot for RL too. Can it be that codes can grow without another declining? Hmmm
 

blue bags

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North Sydney Bears relocate to Melbourne
Melbourne Bears
Home ground AAMI park
Guarantee NRL game every weekend in Melbourne
Fans will love it
Victorian government would love it
Feeder clubs
North Sydney Bears NSW
Burleigh Bears Qld
🐻
 

MrE_Assassin

Juniors
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North Sydney Bears relocate to Melbourne
Melbourne Bears
Home ground AAMI park
Guarantee NRL game every weekend in Melbourne
Fans will love it
Victorian government would love it
Feeder clubs
North Sydney Bears NSW
Burleigh Bears Qld
🐻
They also have the Werribee Bears in the VRL who can provide a Melbourne-based juniors stream.
 

greenBV4

Bench
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North Sydney Bears relocate to Melbourne
Melbourne Bears
Home ground AAMI park
Guarantee NRL game every weekend in Melbourne
Fans will love it
Victorian government would love it
Feeder clubs
North Sydney Bears NSW
Burleigh Bears Qld
🐻
They also have the Werribee Bears in the VRL who can provide a Melbourne-based juniors stream.
not quite, would be a second The team, based in Melbourne for a limited time, The Bear bear Bears
 
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blue bags

First Grade
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Yogi bear and boo-boo
Could really smell out a picnic 🧺 basket
Bring back the Bears 🐨
Melbourne Bears 🐻
AMMI park home ground
Play a game in Adelaide
Maybe Tasmania
Trial game v eagles at north Sydney oval
V eagles 🦅 at Brookvale & central coast Gosford
Give the fans what they want
MELBOURNE BEARS 🐻
 

greenBV4

Bench
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Yogi bear and boo-boo
Could really smell out a picnic 🧺 basket
Bring back the Bears 🐨
Melbourne Bears 🐻
AMMI park home ground
Play a game in Adelaide
Maybe Tasmania
Trial game v eagles at north Sydney oval
V eagles 🦅 at Brookvale & central coast Gosford
Give the fans what they want
MELBOURNE BEARS 🐻
Is this meant to be a song?

F me you must be on some good shit
 

Perth Red

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Relocating a Sydney team to a new NRL frontier makes sense in theory but it’s almost certainly never going to happen.

The goal for every club is to survive and thrive exactly where they are. In that order. Even though there’s a fair chance some of the nine teams in and around Sydney could do better in a new location, no one is going to even consider that option unless it’s a last resort.
And even then, clubs are more likely to die on their feet than live on their knees.

Every current team can make an argument off the top of their head when anyone dares mention them as a candidate to be sent elsewhere.


Manly – only team north of the harbour, if they weren’t there then rugby union would have a monopoly in the area. Talk emanates every few years that the Penns may consider selling but they’re smart enough to know the asset is only getting bigger.

Roosters – money, tradition of being the only team to have played every season of the premiership, decades of recent success.

Souths – the only other 1908 club still operating as a single entity, profitable, huge membership, solid ownership structure, you tried kicking them out so don’t try booting them out of Sydney.

Cronulla – only team to own their stadium, financially strong due to property investments, vast junior nursery.

Penrith – biggest catchment area for juniors, financial clout of leagues club, growing population base, have been travelling alright on the field lately.

Canterbury – another team with plenty of dollars in the bank, nearly 90 years of tradition with a reputation for success, huge following.

Parramatta – centre of western Sydney, financially strong, plenty of juniors, massive fan base.

St George Illawarra – another club with a proud tradition, massive nursery on the South Coast, corporate clout backed with leagues club turnover, a centre of excellence of their own on the way in Wollongong.

Wests Tigers – representing the Macarthur growth area, modern facilities after opening their new Centre of Excellence, combined tradition of two 1908 originals.

It would take a club going into financial dire straits for a Sydney side to wave the white flag.

But that would mean some seriously bad mismanagement for a club to go belly-up with the increased revenue streams coming into the NRL over the past decade – mainly from broadcast rights – and leagues clubs continuing to turn over profits despite government threats to blow up the pokies which always seem to disappear after election day.

 

Wb1234

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Relocating a Sydney team to a new NRL frontier makes sense in theory but it’s almost certainly never going to happen.

The goal for every club is to survive and thrive exactly where they are. In that order. Even though there’s a fair chance some of the nine teams in and around Sydney could do better in a new location, no one is going to even consider that option unless it’s a last resort.
And even then, clubs are more likely to die on their feet than live on their knees.

Every current team can make an argument off the top of their head when anyone dares mention them as a candidate to be sent elsewhere.


Manly – only team north of the harbour, if they weren’t there then rugby union would have a monopoly in the area. Talk emanates every few years that the Penns may consider selling but they’re smart enough to know the asset is only getting bigger.

Roosters – money, tradition of being the only team to have played every season of the premiership, decades of recent success.

Souths – the only other 1908 club still operating as a single entity, profitable, huge membership, solid ownership structure, you tried kicking them out so don’t try booting them out of Sydney.

Cronulla – only team to own their stadium, financially strong due to property investments, vast junior nursery.

Penrith – biggest catchment area for juniors, financial clout of leagues club, growing population base, have been travelling alright on the field lately.

Canterbury – another team with plenty of dollars in the bank, nearly 90 years of tradition with a reputation for success, huge following.

Parramatta – centre of western Sydney, financially strong, plenty of juniors, massive fan base.

St George Illawarra – another club with a proud tradition, massive nursery on the South Coast, corporate clout backed with leagues club turnover, a centre of excellence of their own on the way in Wollongong.

Wests Tigers – representing the Macarthur growth area, modern facilities after opening their new Centre of Excellence, combined tradition of two 1908 originals.

It would take a club going into financial dire straits for a Sydney side to wave the white flag.

But that would mean some seriously bad mismanagement for a club to go belly-up with the increased revenue streams coming into the NRL over the past decade – mainly from broadcast rights – and leagues clubs continuing to turn over profits despite government threats to blow up the pokies which always seem to disappear after election day.

Here I was thinking the opinions on each club were yours and wondering how did he get clued up so fast
 

jim_57

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Relocating a Sydney team to a new NRL frontier makes sense in theory but it’s almost certainly never going to happen.

The goal for every club is to survive and thrive exactly where they are. In that order. Even though there’s a fair chance some of the nine teams in and around Sydney could do better in a new location, no one is going to even consider that option unless it’s a last resort.
And even then, clubs are more likely to die on their feet than live on their knees.

Every current team can make an argument off the top of their head when anyone dares mention them as a candidate to be sent elsewhere.


Manly – only team north of the harbour, if they weren’t there then rugby union would have a monopoly in the area. Talk emanates every few years that the Penns may consider selling but they’re smart enough to know the asset is only getting bigger.

Roosters – money, tradition of being the only team to have played every season of the premiership, decades of recent success.

Souths – the only other 1908 club still operating as a single entity, profitable, huge membership, solid ownership structure, you tried kicking them out so don’t try booting them out of Sydney.

Cronulla – only team to own their stadium, financially strong due to property investments, vast junior nursery.

Penrith – biggest catchment area for juniors, financial clout of leagues club, growing population base, have been travelling alright on the field lately.

Canterbury – another team with plenty of dollars in the bank, nearly 90 years of tradition with a reputation for success, huge following.

Parramatta – centre of western Sydney, financially strong, plenty of juniors, massive fan base.

St George Illawarra – another club with a proud tradition, massive nursery on the South Coast, corporate clout backed with leagues club turnover, a centre of excellence of their own on the way in Wollongong.

Wests Tigers – representing the Macarthur growth area, modern facilities after opening their new Centre of Excellence, combined tradition of two 1908 originals.

It would take a club going into financial dire straits for a Sydney side to wave the white flag.

But that would mean some seriously bad mismanagement for a club to go belly-up with the increased revenue streams coming into the NRL over the past decade – mainly from broadcast rights – and leagues clubs continuing to turn over profits despite government threats to blow up the pokies which always seem to disappear after election day.


As we’re seeing with the Tigers and Dragons these clubs can’t even commit to prioritising one side of the merger even after 20+ years and it continues to hinder them both. The chance of a Sydney club willingly packing up and moving is next to zero now.
 
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