Well yeah hopefully if he's going under the knife now he'll be ready for us come seiason training, Nov 1st. and yeah hopefully he won't carry it through till next year, but a lot of them go for surgery at this time if they don't have to play the rest of the season. must say though we have a lot of operations coming out of this season, Miller - shoulder, frawley - ankle, weyman - ankle(s), howell- ended up needing his ankle done after the weekend. and new signing dane tilse is already down and just had knee surgery before he arrived!