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Trent Robinson: Cut interchanges to 8.

BunniesMan

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Sydney Roosters coach Trent Robinson has again showed why he is fast emerging as one of the best thinkers in the NRL by suggesting a reduction in the number of interchanges to eight as a solution to the wrestling tactics that are again ruining games and endangering players' safety.
NRL head of football Todd Greenberg sparked debate about wrestling when he told Fairfax Media the game's governing body was powerless to eradicate it, and retiring props Jason King and Luke Bailey said, in radio interviews, that of all the changes to the game during their careers, wrestling was the one they disliked most.
"I will miss some things but I definitely won't miss those wrestling sessions that have unfortunately crept into the game," Manly prop King said on 2SM.
Asked about his thoughts on the game at the moment, Titans prop Bailey said on Triple M: "The game is looking fantastic as long as we can piss off the wrestle".
Bailey speaks for most in the game but the fact that 15 players have been charged with crusher and chicken-wing tackles in the past five rounds suggests the NRL match review committee is either doing its best to discourage such tactics, or they are now endemic in the game, or both.
Two of the most experienced voices in the NRL, Wayne Bennett and Phil Gould, have challenged Greenberg and the code's administrators to do more to rid the game of the wrestling scourge that first emerged in 2003 when then Canberra coach Mathew Elliott accused Melbourne Storm of introducing the grapple tackle.
"I don't believe it is too far gone," Bennett said after his last game in charge of Newcastle on Sunday. "It will take someone with a lot of courage to back their decisions and stay with it. That's what it will take; it will take leadership."
Gould, the Penrith general manager and a Fairfax columnist, has called for a summit on the issue at the end of the season. "I think that there are a number of aspects of defence that have been in the game over the last eight or 10 years that have really come out of the one club, and people that have worked at that club," Gould said in last week's Gus and Webby Show.
"It has got to the stage where other clubs have tried to keep up. Now they realise it is bad for the game and have probably steered away from it. It needs to be stamped out. There is no good saying you can't stamp it out. You can stamp it out and they should," he said.
"Everything comes down to what is not in the spirit of the game and I really think there needs to be a summit on this. I think the coaches need to be called in and dragged over the coals for it, and I think there needs to be stipulations over the type of training and the type of methods that teams use.
"It is in the game's best interests; it is in player welfare's best interests and it is not right. It is not in the spirit of the game," Gould said.
Enter Robinson who, unlike many of his coaching counterparts, is unafraid of expressing his opinions on the game, even when they are not necessarily in the Roosters' best interest.
Before last Thursday night's clash with arch rivals South Sydney, Robinson declared it was a "bigger than a normal round game" for his team. Afterwards he revealed the Roosters had prepared for the game in the belief they would be playing the Rabbitohs again in the opening weekend of the finals.
Robinson then displayed brutal honestly when he admitted in a radio interview on Sunday that lock Aidan Guerra had gone too far when he committed a chicken-wing tackle on Rabbitohs back-rower Kyle Turner and said he would have to pay the price for his actions by accepting a one-match suspension.
Asked what could be done to remove wrestling from the game, Robinson proposed a reduction in the number of interchanges from 10 to eight to increase the fatigue levels of defenders. He suggested it would be discussed during the off-season by the NRL rules committee, of which he is a member.
"We can try and get rid of it," he said. "I think we do it through interchanges. I think we do it by reducing the amount of rest time between scrums ... that is when the smaller guys will come back in front of the props and start playing flat and fast, and start getting their hands on the ball more.
"We will see a bit more fatigue in the play if we reduce the interchange to eight. There are a few things there which will increase the speed of the ruck. I don't think it is far away from a discussion at the [rules] committee and the coaches' meetings."
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...stling-scourge-has-merit-20140908-10dxq3.html

Thoughts? For a Roosters employee Robinson seems like a decent bloke. I agree with him here.

And we might see 8 interchange as soon as 2015.
 

TheDalek079

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I don't like the idea. However, I believe Robbo to be the best brain in the business so if he likes the idea then I would accept it if it was introduce
 

axl rose

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I don't like the idea. However, I believe Robbo to be the best brain in the business

I remember people saying this about the new breed of ' super' coaches Fittler, Jason Taylor and Cartwright who all has success early. How are thier teams going.
 

ellskimore

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The wrestle is killing the game. I'll give the green light to any proposal that tries to kill it off.
 

BunniesMan

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IMO they should give it a go for the season. I can't see it making things worse

Some people say it will lead to more 80 minute backrowers instead of props but there is a limit to how many humans of that size there are with that much aerobic capacity.
 

lockyno1

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Should be less than that. 4 interchanges. If you come off, that's it you are off. No coming back on
 

TheDalek079

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I remember people saying this about the new breed of ' super' coaches Fittler, Jason Taylor and Cartwright who all has success early. How are thier teams going.

they went to shit the following year. Robbo won another minor premiership. He doesn't fit into your category.

But it's more than just that. It's how he doesn't coach the team to play for penalties. How he doesn't blame the ref each time we lose (it has to be major like a 2-11 penalty count). He's different to all the other coaches. He's more than just a coach. He has that Jack Gibson feel to him
 

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I think there should be a ban on Wrestling coaches across the game. I am not sure how you would regulate it but anyone practicing it should banned or fined heavily.

After the NRL season the league needs to act. League fans want to see a contrast in teams style of play.
 

AlwaysGreen

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I'm not a fan of reducing the interchange too much but 8 may be OK. What I would like to see is that only 3 players on the bench can interchange, the 4th man is a permanent replacement.
 

T.S Quint

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I remember people saying this about the new breed of ' super' coaches Fittler, Jason Taylor and Cartwright who all has success early. How are thier teams going.

Taylor's team has been going ok the last couple of years. :sarcasm:
 

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But wouldn't reducing the interchanges increase the wrestle as players have to try anything to slow down the quick play the ball which will be more devastating with tired forwards.
 

T.S Quint

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But wouldn't reducing the interchanges increase the wrestle as players have to try anything to slow down the quick play the ball which will be more devastating with tired forwards.

Probably.
It will also lead more tired players leading to lazier tackles (ie more high tackles).
 

axl rose

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they went to shit the following year. Robbo won another minor premiership. He doesn't fit into your category.

But it's more than just that. It's how he doesn't coach the team to play for penalties. How he doesn't blame the ref each time we lose (it has to be major like a 2-11 penalty count). He's different to all the other coaches. He's more than just a coach. He has that Jack Gibson feel to him


True, he coaches to give them away of their line. Agree, he speaks well and is not a whinger. Then again he has never had a losing season, or a poor roster. Bit premature to compare him to Gibson.
 

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IMO they should give it a go for the season. I can't see it making things worse

Some people say it will lead to more 80 minute backrowers instead of props but there is a limit to how many humans of that size there are with that much aerobic capacity.

Not having a go here but were there big blokes playing in the prop position in years gone by when there was no interchange?? Of course there were.
 

BunniesMan

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But wouldn't reducing the interchanges increase the wrestle as players have to try anything to slow down the quick play the ball which will be more devastating with tired forwards.

But wrestling a 110kg+ bloke into a specific position against his will is not easy. Tired blokes won't have the energy to do it. The ball handler will be able to get down in the right way for a quick play the ball much more often than they do now.
 

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