Val Holmes set to join the NFL - Sharks grant release

[Abacus]

Tbf to Gal, his comments would be based on him going around 1 more year to try for another premiership. Now Val has shat all over that by leaving.

Suck shit Gal!

 

[TIGER14]

 

[txta2]

What a mongrel Holmes is. He can rush out and do a interview yesterday with the Telegraph but he doesn't have the decency to face up and talk to Flanagan.

It's a reflection of his attitude. He doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself...and his wallet

 

[AJB1102]

and if anyone thinks Gallen wouldnt break a contract if he was the right situation enticed him, then they're f**king morons.

He knocked back 2 opportunities to sign with a very successful Manly while Cronulla we're on life support. Both times Manly went on to win the comp. I think Parra had a decent crack at him too.

"Integrity" might not have been the best line for him to run but I think he's qualified to have an opinion on loyalty; 19 seasons at a club who were a hopeless shit show for the majority of his career.

If you think he's some teflon fan favourite of the Sharks you're clueless.

 

[God-King Dean]

Does anyone know what Holmes IQ is?
If it's anything less than 180, he shouldn't bother.

NFL players must have top tier IQ levels, to understand the extremely complex and intricate playbook.
Virtually all player are college graduates. Harvard, Princeton etc. We are talking about the most elite minds in the country.

The game of Rugby League is for.... Well, to put it politely, 'simple' people. And hey, nothing wrong with that. A simple game for simple folk. No snobbery here.

But let's be honest, the only reason the American game isn't the #1 sport in Australia because the vast majority of people are too 'simple' to understand it.

Numbers, game plans, abstract thought etc, all the mental attributes require to understand and play the game are lost on the common RL fan. No, all they do is look at the pretty colours on the TV, see these big bodies bang into each other, yell at the TV in the drunken stupor - RL requires little, to no thought whatsoever.

 

[Canard]

Does anyone know what Holmes IQ is?
If it's anything less than 180, he shouldn't bother.

NFL players must have top tier IQ levels, to understand the extremely complex and intricate playbook.
Virtually all player are college graduates. Harvard, Princeton etc. We are talking about the most elite minds in the country.

The game of Rugby League is for.... Well, to put it politely, 'simple' people. And hey, nothing wrong with that. A simple game for simple folk. No snobbery here.

But let's be honest, the only reason the American game isn't the #1 sport in Australia because the vast majority of people are too 'simple' to understand it.

Numbers, game plans, abstract thought etc, all the mental attributes require to understand and play the game are lost on the common RL fan. No, all they do is look at the pretty colours on the TV, see these big bodies bang into each other, yell at the TV in the drunken stupor - RL requires little, to no thought whatsoever.

I also find that most NFL fans, especially those on LU, are very worldly and cultured

 

[nick87]

Its funny to look at his stats. Career like 20 odd runs for about 70 odd yards over 8 games.

I honestly think if he’d stuck it out he could have become quite serviceable... but he got his head in the clouds about Olympic glory pipe dreams and f**ked off (mind you, the court case might have had something to do with that sudden “dream” too)

I don’t doubt the court case had an impact on things but he was going to get cut and I doubt he’d have had much interest going forward
He was a bad nfl player, and one nearing 30, who offered nothing on special teams except fumbles
He wasn’t going to be serviceable, because he wasn’t going to be on a roster

 

[Maximus]

I don't think the bright lights were the issue. Hayne is a seasoned professional who knows the weight of expectation from his NRL career. He didn't look like a nuffy in the pre season he looked like potential and possibly a good return guy and depth RB if he continued to work at it. Maybe he didn't work hard enough? Wouldn't be the first time.

If Holmes makes the 53 man roster I think more elite players may try their hand in the future.

Pretty much all of the time he looked good in pre-season was when he was playing against 3rd or 4th stringers. Game 3 is the only time you really see starters play extensive minutes and he had 2 runs for 0 yards.

That was pretty much his ceiling and you don't see 3rd string RBs stick around very long (only 1 rb on that roster is even still in the league).

3 fumbles in 31 touches also isn't something a lot of teams like to keep around.

 

[Vozzy]

I watch both NFL and NRL and the one thing I actually think NFL should look at when scouting is good tacklers in the NRL rather then the natural runners. I think league players would actually make good linebackers. The amount of times you see a running back in NFL get threw the front line then the linebackers/corners miss easy one on one tackles cos they don't have the technique the wrap the ball carrier. They put an arm out to try and trip him and the running back can break that so easy. There are some awful defenders like this every week. Even Jarryd Hayne when he was at the top of his game as a fullback would be able to wrap a a player when there is a break in NRL and I think this is where he should have been used?

 

[nick87]

I watch both NFL and NRL and the one thing I actually think NFL should look at when scouting is good tacklers in the NRL rather then the natural runners. I think league players would actually make good linebackers. The amount of times you see a running back in NFL get threw the front line then the linebackers/corners miss easy one on one tackles cos they don't have the technique the wrap the ball carrier. They put an arm out to try and trip him and the running back can break that so easy. There are some awful defenders like this every week. Even Jarryd Hayne when he was at the top of his game as a fullback would be able to wrap a a player when there is a break in NRL and I think this is where he should have been used?

LB's are some of the most instinctive positions in an NFL defence.
It would be very hard to instinctively understand a game to the level required for a LB when you've not grown up playing it.
Hard to make a way, wrap up and tackle if you arent anywhere near the football

It would be like taking an OLmen and asking them to be a front rower because they're good at being big and moving people. The skills of high level sport rarely translate, it's a rare sort of athlete who can just seamlessly transition to any sport and be good, it's all specialised training

Val Holmes is as good a chance to go over to the NFL and be a good NFL player as Luke Kuechly is to come here and be a good NRL player. It's not about athleticism or IQ, it's about playing a game that is not natural to you, at the VERY highest level.

 

[mozza91]

Rugby League players are worthless athletes bro.

The hot blonde who gives injury updates on the sideline can ran quicker over 40 yards than Holmes and also bench presses more than Jason Taumalolo.

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

Does anyone know what Holmes IQ is?
If it's anything less than 180, he shouldn't bother.

NFL players must have top tier IQ levels, to understand the extremely complex and intricate playbook.
Virtually all player are college graduates. Harvard, Princeton etc. We are talking about the most elite minds in the country.

The game of Rugby League is for.... Well, to put it politely, 'simple' people. And hey, nothing wrong with that. A simple game for simple folk. No snobbery here.

But let's be honest, the only reason the American game isn't the #1 sport in Australia because the vast majority of people are too 'simple' to understand it.

Numbers, game plans, abstract thought etc, all the mental attributes require to understand and play the game are lost on the common RL fan. No, all they do is look at the pretty colours on the TV, see these big bodies bang into each other, yell at the TV in the drunken stupor - RL requires little, to no thought whatsoever.

lol.. this is a myth and I enjoy watching NFL. Effectively the average IQ of an RB or WR is on par with that of a security guard. However keep peddling the myth. You are also somehow implying that Americans have higher IQ's than Australia. Again not true, sure some Australian's are dumb arses, but they are the ones who blindly think NFL players are geniuses. Hate to break the news to you but top tier College Talent will not be allowed to fail their grades. It just won't happen.

http://www.espn.com/page2/s/closer/020228.html

The average NFL combiner scores about the same as the average applicant for any other job, a 21. A 20 indicates the test-taker has an IQ of 100, which is average.

Some people disagree with the whole idea of IQ testing because they believe the tests are culturally biased and inaccurate. But Charlie Wonderlic doesn't make grand claims for the score derived from his test. "What the score does is help match training methods with a player's ability," he says. "It could be a playbook -- what is the best way to teach a player a play? On the field, the higher the IQ, the greater the ability to understand and handle contingencies and make sound decisions on the fly."

In general, says Wonderlic, "The closer you are to the ball, the higher your score."

This assessment roughly corresponds to the averages revealed, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, by an NFL personnel man in Paul Zimmerman's "The New Thinking man's Guide to Pro Football," which are:

Offensive tackles: 26
Centers: 25
Quarterbacks: 24
Guards: 23
Tight Ends: 22
Safeties: 19
Middle linebackers: 19
Cornerbacks: 18
Wide receivers: 17
Fullbacks: 17
Halfbacks: 16

The average scores in other professions look like this:

Chemist: 31
Programmer: 29
Newswriter: 26
Sales: 24
Bank teller: 22
Clerical Worker: 21
Security Guard: 17
Warehouse: 15

 

[Canard]

lol.. this is a myth and I enjoy watching NFL. Effectively the average IQ of an RB or WR is on par with that of a security guard. However keep peddling the myth. You are also somehow implying that Americans have higher IQ's than Australia. Again not true, sure some Australian's are dumb arses, but they are the ones who blindly think NFL players are geniuses. Hate to break the news to you but top tier College Talent will not be allowed to fail their grades. It just won't happen.

http://www.espn.com/page2/s/closer/020228.html

The average NFL combiner scores about the same as the average applicant for any other job, a 21. A 20 indicates the test-taker has an IQ of 100, which is average.

Some people disagree with the whole idea of IQ testing because they believe the tests are culturally biased and inaccurate. But Charlie Wonderlic doesn't make grand claims for the score derived from his test. "What the score does is help match training methods with a player's ability," he says. "It could be a playbook -- what is the best way to teach a player a play? On the field, the higher the IQ, the greater the ability to understand and handle contingencies and make sound decisions on the fly."

In general, says Wonderlic, "The closer you are to the ball, the higher your score."

This assessment roughly corresponds to the averages revealed, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, by an NFL personnel man in Paul Zimmerman's "The New Thinking man's Guide to Pro Football," which are:

Offensive tackles: 26
Centers: 25
Quarterbacks: 24
Guards: 23
Tight Ends: 22
Safeties: 19
Middle linebackers: 19
Cornerbacks: 18
Wide receivers: 17
Fullbacks: 17
Halfbacks: 16

The average scores in other professions look like this:

Chemist: 31
Programmer: 29
Newswriter: 26
Sales: 24
Bank teller: 22
Clerical Worker: 21
Security Guard: 17
Warehouse: 15

You can't have thought that GKD was serious???

 

[beave]

lol.. this is a myth and I enjoy watching NFL. Effectively the average IQ of an RB or WR is on par with that of a security guard. However keep peddling the myth. You are also somehow implying that Americans have higher IQ's than Australia. Again not true, sure some Australian's are dumb arses, but they are the ones who blindly think NFL players are geniuses. Hate to break the news to you but top tier College Talent will not be allowed to fail their grades. It just won't happen.

http://www.espn.com/page2/s/closer/020228.html

The average NFL combiner scores about the same as the average applicant for any other job, a 21. A 20 indicates the test-taker has an IQ of 100, which is average.

Some people disagree with the whole idea of IQ testing because they believe the tests are culturally biased and inaccurate. But Charlie Wonderlic doesn't make grand claims for the score derived from his test. "What the score does is help match training methods with a player's ability," he says. "It could be a playbook -- what is the best way to teach a player a play? On the field, the higher the IQ, the greater the ability to understand and handle contingencies and make sound decisions on the fly."

In general, says Wonderlic, "The closer you are to the ball, the higher your score."

This assessment roughly corresponds to the averages revealed, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, by an NFL personnel man in Paul Zimmerman's "The New Thinking man's Guide to Pro Football," which are:

Offensive tackles: 26
Centers: 25
Quarterbacks: 24
Guards: 23
Tight Ends: 22
Safeties: 19
Middle linebackers: 19
Cornerbacks: 18
Wide receivers: 17
Fullbacks: 17
Halfbacks: 16

The average scores in other professions look like this:

Chemist: 31
Programmer: 29
Newswriter: 26
Sales: 24
Bank teller: 22
Clerical Worker: 21
Security Guard: 17
Warehouse: 15

the joke



your head

 

[God-King Dean]

lol.. this is a myth and I enjoy watching NFL. Effectively the average IQ of an RB or WR is on par with that of a security guard. However keep peddling the myth. You are also somehow implying that Americans have higher IQ's than Australia. Again not true, sure some Australian's are dumb arses, but they are the ones who blindly think NFL players are geniuses. Hate to break the news to you but top tier College Talent will not be allowed to fail their grades. It just won't happen.

http://www.espn.com/page2/s/closer/020228.html

The average NFL combiner scores about the same as the average applicant for any other job, a 21. A 20 indicates the test-taker has an IQ of 100, which is average.

Some people disagree with the whole idea of IQ testing because they believe the tests are culturally biased and inaccurate. But Charlie Wonderlic doesn't make grand claims for the score derived from his test. "What the score does is help match training methods with a player's ability," he says. "It could be a playbook -- what is the best way to teach a player a play? On the field, the higher the IQ, the greater the ability to understand and handle contingencies and make sound decisions on the fly."

In general, says Wonderlic, "The closer you are to the ball, the higher your score."

This assessment roughly corresponds to the averages revealed, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, by an NFL personnel man in Paul Zimmerman's "The New Thinking man's Guide to Pro Football," which are:

Offensive tackles: 26
Centers: 25
Quarterbacks: 24
Guards: 23
Tight Ends: 22
Safeties: 19
Middle linebackers: 19
Cornerbacks: 18
Wide receivers: 17
Fullbacks: 17
Halfbacks: 16

The average scores in other professions look like this:

Chemist: 31
Programmer: 29
Newswriter: 26
Sales: 24
Bank teller: 22
Clerical Worker: 21
Security Guard: 17
Warehouse: 15

okay

 

[BestHookerRein]

lol.. this is a myth and I enjoy watching NFL. Effectively the average IQ of an RB or WR is on par with that of a security guard. However keep peddling the myth. You are also somehow implying that Americans have higher IQ's than Australia. Again not true, sure some Australian's are dumb arses, but they are the ones who blindly think NFL players are geniuses. Hate to break the news to you but top tier College Talent will not be allowed to fail their grades. It just won't happen.

http://www.espn.com/page2/s/closer/020228.html

The average NFL combiner scores about the same as the average applicant for any other job, a 21. A 20 indicates the test-taker has an IQ of 100, which is average.

Some people disagree with the whole idea of IQ testing because they believe the tests are culturally biased and inaccurate. But Charlie Wonderlic doesn't make grand claims for the score derived from his test. "What the score does is help match training methods with a player's ability," he says. "It could be a playbook -- what is the best way to teach a player a play? On the field, the higher the IQ, the greater the ability to understand and handle contingencies and make sound decisions on the fly."

In general, says Wonderlic, "The closer you are to the ball, the higher your score."

This assessment roughly corresponds to the averages revealed, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, by an NFL personnel man in Paul Zimmerman's "The New Thinking man's Guide to Pro Football," which are:

Offensive tackles: 26
Centers: 25
Quarterbacks: 24
Guards: 23
Tight Ends: 22
Safeties: 19
Middle linebackers: 19
Cornerbacks: 18
Wide receivers: 17
Fullbacks: 17
Halfbacks: 16

The average scores in other professions look like this:

Chemist: 31
Programmer: 29
Newswriter: 26
Sales: 24
Bank teller: 22
Clerical Worker: 21
Security Guard: 17
Warehouse: 15

TL;DR

 

[Annyong]

lol.. this is a myth and I enjoy watching NFL. Effectively the average IQ of an RB or WR is on par with that of a security guard. However keep peddling the myth. You are also somehow implying that Americans have higher IQ's than Australia. Again not true, sure some Australian's are dumb arses, but they are the ones who blindly think NFL players are geniuses. Hate to break the news to you but top tier College Talent will not be allowed to fail their grades. It just won't happen.

http://www.espn.com/page2/s/closer/020228.html

The average NFL combiner scores about the same as the average applicant for any other job, a 21. A 20 indicates the test-taker has an IQ of 100, which is average.

Some people disagree with the whole idea of IQ testing because they believe the tests are culturally biased and inaccurate. But Charlie Wonderlic doesn't make grand claims for the score derived from his test. "What the score does is help match training methods with a player's ability," he says. "It could be a playbook -- what is the best way to teach a player a play? On the field, the higher the IQ, the greater the ability to understand and handle contingencies and make sound decisions on the fly."

In general, says Wonderlic, "The closer you are to the ball, the higher your score."

This assessment roughly corresponds to the averages revealed, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, by an NFL personnel man in Paul Zimmerman's "The New Thinking man's Guide to Pro Football," which are:

Offensive tackles: 26
Centers: 25
Quarterbacks: 24
Guards: 23
Tight Ends: 22
Safeties: 19
Middle linebackers: 19
Cornerbacks: 18
Wide receivers: 17
Fullbacks: 17
Halfbacks: 16

The average scores in other professions look like this:

Chemist: 31
Programmer: 29
Newswriter: 26
Sales: 24
Bank teller: 22
Clerical Worker: 21
Security Guard: 17
Warehouse: 15

Yeah good post mate. Looks long, didn’t read & never would attempt to read. 2.98/10.

 

[Annyong]

TL;DR

Have a like bud. Rein is an ordinary player though.

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

You can't have thought that GKD was serious???

Trust me, he is.

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

the joke



your head

Except he is serious.