Vince leads Titans to amzing win.

[Noa]

My favourite player Vince Young in the NFL, brought the Titans from 0-21 down at the start of the 4th to win 24-21 against the Giants today. Had his best game so far throwimg 24-35 for 249 yards (2 td) and rushing for 69 yards (td) on 10 carries including a 19 yard run on FOURTH and ten in the last quarter.

Give him another year or two (and a decent WR) and he'll own this league. Be the player many thought Mike Vick would be (but wont).

 

[Fin077]

He did well, but got lucky too.

I cant believe Kiwanuka didn't drill him - he just let him go! Talk about a coach killer! (Gotta feel for him though, he thought he heard a whistle.)

Back to Vince though....He looks like he'll be a good player for the Titans in the furure.

 

[pennywisealfie]

good win for a rookie. hes the best of the big 3 so far but cutler hasnt had a chance...

 

[Fin077]

I'd say Leinart's the best, but I guess he does have better receivers to work with in Boldin and Fitzgerald.

 

[Parra_Eels]

f**king Atlanta - receivers couldn't catch a bloody cold

 

[Fin077]

I know how you're feeling Parra_Eels......My guys havent been so hot in that department either.

 

[Mal Meninga]

QB's are protected species, if Kiwi smashed him than it would've been flag galore. Anyone see that bogus flag on the Packers player? A disgrace!!

 

[kurt faulk]

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how good is this vince young.

he has taken a terrible team in disarray and turned them into a half decent team in a matter of a few games. when i say that i mean he makes the rest of the team play better because of his leadership qualities. you can just see it in the quotes from players on the team.

the titans are now 5 and 4 since vince became the starter. i haven't seen a titans game yet this season but it's not difficult to see what a difference he has made to the team. he doesn't have top shelf wrs to throw to or a superstar rb to hand off to but he has been able to get it done most of the time.

i thought young was going to dominate the nfl when he got used to playing there and he is off to a great start. how good will he be when he finally "gets it" and everything slows down for him.

the titans are going to be a force for the next decade.

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[Noa]

InVINCEble gone done it again. 39 yard touchdown run in OT to win the game and demoralise his hometown team who overlooked him in the draft.

 

[Big Tim]

You could compare this to that time Vick did the same thing.... huge TD run in OT.

BUT, Vince has proven he can do it all. It is not a fluke leading your team to a National Championship (beating arguably the greatest team in NCAA history) and turning around the struggling Titans.

He is already a superstar and I hope he just gets better and better.

 

[Mal Meninga]

You could compare this to that time Vick did the same thing.... huge TD run in OT.

BUT, Vince has proven he can do it all. It is not a fluke leading your team to a National Championship (beating arguably the greatest team in NCAA history) and turning around the struggling Titans.

He is already a superstar and I hope he just gets better and better.

Didn't Vick lead Virginia Tech of all schools to the National championship game? That in itself seems like a major achievement. Vick has just been the victim of believing his own hype, injuries and a system that doesn't focus on his strengths.

 

[kurt faulk]

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vick just isn't an accurate passer and when a qb isn't accurate he's nothing.

some of that can be blamed on his bum wrs but most on vick himself because when the pressure is on he can't hit the side of a barn.

from the highlights i've seen vince hits his receivers with lasers when the pressure is on. that's why he's going to be a superstar and vick will always be known as a rb who can throw a little.

vick will win games with his legs but when he faces the better defences he can't do it because they take away the run and force him to throw. that's why the falcons will never go all the way.

it will be interesting when opposition d coordinators get more tape on young and come up with schemes to close his running options down. i believe he can beat teams with his arm. i don't know enough about the titan's wrs to know how good they are. they need at least one great wr to help vince out in tough situations so he can have a go to guy. drew bennett is more of a #2 wr.

it's going to be great to watch young progress as a qb. once he gets comfortable with the nfl who knows what he will do.

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[Mal Meninga]

I was previously not sold on Vince Young(I am now), but let's not forget he was throwing for 40% up until a week or two ago? Even Vick has a higher percentage than that despite his dreadful Wide outs.

Also it's interesting to note that didn't Vick have this same kind of hype when he became starter? First QB to beat the Pack at Lambeau when it was below 40? I really think Young is a freak but the injuries will eventually catch up, you know it will happen.

 

[kurt faulk]

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vince is a rookie and they usually hover around the 50% completion rate in their rookie year. look at the hard time leinart had and he was throwing to better wrs.

the hype with vick was his running and the fact he could throw it 60 yards with a flick of the wrist. but all of his highlights were running, even when he threw a td he was running a long way before letting the ball go. i'm not saying he's a bad qb, he's just not going to win a superbowl or even make it to a superbowl in his career. he has too many limitations as a qb.

the hype about young is that he can do it all and he's a natural leader of a team and he's a winner. you can see that he can stand in the pocket and deliver the ball with precision in the face of a pass rush. you can see he makes the whole team better and players feed off his leadership. and as the game slows down for him he will find the open recievers earlier and run less.

he will be much better next season.

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[Mal Meninga]

Throwing at 40% is not hovering around the 50% mark.
I'm not basing any arguements on hypotheticals. Because hypothetically, had Vick not broken his leg after his breakout year, he probably would've continued his progression because he came back and played pretty well for the rest of that year.

Looking at the mobile QB's in the league, Mcnabb, Culpepper, Mcnair and Vick, it's no surprise they've been the most hurt in recent years. It's bound to happen to Young aswell.

 

[Fin077]

I think Vince Young will be a solid player, but I'm not sold on him just yet.

 

[kurt faulk]

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he's at 51.7% right now.

his last 3 games have been 68.6%, 60% and 65.5%. that's not hovering around 50 either. he has made huge strides as the season has progressed and that's all you can ask from a rookie.

vick is at 51.8%. that's abysmal for a veteran qb. can't blame a broken leg on that seeing he's going to run for over 1000 yards this season. he's never been an accurate passer and never will be, he's a runner pure and simple.

as for the most hurt qbs. how about kurt warner, marc bulger, chris simms, drew brees, chad pennington, carson palmer, rex grossman, matt hasselbeck.

i seem to remember all those qbs getting injured for long stretches of time and they can all be classified as pocket passers.

any qb has just as much chance to get hurt as any other one. the nfl is a violent game.

as of right now vince young has the makings of being a superstar qb for a long time. he has all the tools to make it as a qb.

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[Fin077]

vick is at 51.8%. that's abysmal for a veteran qb.

Atlanta's WR's cant catch though......that wouldn't help him.

 

[Mal Meninga]

Running QB's are more likely to get constantly injured. Don't tell me that you can compare most of those 1 off injuries to those of Vick, Mcnair, Culpepper and Mcnabb.

Young can be a special QB, where have I said "No he can't because he sucks!"? His injuries will come due to his style of play, why is that so hard to believe? Look at Culpepper, at my count he's about to write off a 3rd year due to injury. Steve Mcnair, barely practices at all. Mcnabb, doesn't even need big hits to get injured for the rest of the year, may be his 3rd or 4th year now that he's been injured.

And as a result of injuries, his progression as a QB could suffer.

P.S Were you at all excited about Vick when he took a 5-11 or whatever team to the playoffs in his first season as a starter? Or did you have beautiful hindsight and write him off back than?

 

[kurt faulk]

Atlanta's WR's cant catch though......that wouldn't help him.

it wouldn't but all receivers drop easy balls, even the best of them. every qb has to watch perfectly thrown balls hit the gound now or then.

there is no excuse for a 51.8% completion rate for a veteran qb who wants to lead his team to the promised land. he simply can't do it.

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