WA BEARS

[Perth Red]

Positivity brother, WA Bears

Owned by WA, all games in WA, rebrand to West Ciast Bears, that’d be super positive. Anything else, screw that.

 

[MugaB]

Owned by WA, all games in WA, rebrand to West Ciast Bears, that’d be super positive. Anything else, screw that.

I'll agree, but it has to have some form of ownership to NS, atleast to start with, otherwise they wont be funding or sending their juniors to start the initial team, you kniw just to get you on the front foot... yes yes dolphins haven't dont it this way.. but they have the luxury to not dip into their catchment yet...
Perth does not..

 

[Perth Red]

I'll agree, but it has to have some form of ownership to NS, atleast to start with, otherwise they wont be funding or sending their juniors to start the initial team, you kniw just to get you on the front foot... yes yes dolphins haven't dont it this way.. but they have the luxury to not dip into their catchment yet...
Perth does not..

No it doesn’t, they either want their brand back or they want to own an nrl license. They shouldn’t be allowed both in WA. Itd be a recipe for disaster
I’d be ok with a compromise of a seat on the board of a new club and 25% stake in the company, with protections in the clubs constitution so they couldn’t get screwed again.

anything the NS bears can offer a WA club in terms of jnr development we can get with any one of numerous potential partnerships with qrl clubs.

 

[MugaB]

No it doesn’t, they either want their brand back or they want to own an nrl license. They shouldn’t be allowed both in WA. Itd be a recipe for disaster
I’d be ok with a compromise of a seat on the board of a new club and 25% stake in the company, with protections in the clubs constitution so they couldn’t get screwed again.

anything the NS bears can offer a WA club in terms of jnr development we can get with any one of numerous potential partnerships with qrl clubs.

25% was kinda what i was thinking anyways.. it would be more than enough for whatever they offer to the table, especially since they'd only get a few games on sydney

 

[Wb1234]

You know instead of speculating one of you could have just asked me to clarify my position on the Dolphins...

Put simplistically for sake of time; though the Dolphins won't be a total failure (i.e. fold), their business decisions have made it impossible for them to live up to the full potential that a 2nd Brisbane side had, and in a lot of ways that's worse than them being a total failure (though that's it's own tangent for another time).

In other words they'll survive just fine, but they'll be a comparatively small club compared to what was possible, and have to rely on success on the pitch to pull numbers anywhere near what was possible as standard for a well constructed 2nd Brisbane side.

Aside from potentially during the initial novelty period, their club will never really rival the Broncos in size, and their attendance, season ticket holders, memberships, ratings, etc, will never crack the numbers that a side that played fulltime out of modern centralised stadia and had the ability to represent a significant portion of the population could have had.

BTW, I might add that the Dolphins have gone pretty much exactly as I've predicted that they would so far.
The only thing I got wrong is that I thought that they'd be bold enough to push on with the Redcliffe name from the start, but aside from that I've arcuately predicted everything they've done and has happened to them as a result so far.

You predicted they would get record sponsorships that are bigger than most nrl clubs ?

 

[Pippen94]

You know instead of speculating one of you could have just asked me to clarify my position on the Dolphins...

Put simplistically for sake of time; though the Dolphins won't be a total failure (i.e. fold), their business decisions have made it impossible for them to live up to the full potential that a 2nd Brisbane side had, and in a lot of ways that's worse than them being a total failure (though that's it's own tangent for another time).

In other words they'll survive just fine, but they'll be a comparatively small club compared to what was possible, and have to rely on success on the pitch to pull numbers anywhere near what was possible as standard for a well constructed 2nd Brisbane side.

Aside from potentially during the initial novelty period, their club will never really rival the Broncos in size, and their attendance, season ticket holders, memberships, ratings, etc, will never crack the numbers that a side that played fulltime out of modern centralised stadia and had the ability to represent a significant portion of the population could have had.

BTW, I might add that the Dolphins have gone pretty much exactly as I've predicted that they would so far.
The only thing I got wrong is that I thought that they'd be bold enough to push on with the Redcliffe name from the start, but aside from that I've arcuately predicted everything they've done and has happened to them as a result so far.

We not even in 2023 & this guy declaring side has failed. Like I said toxic

 

[Pippen94]

People see what they want to see

Like 40k active participants in wa, despite numbers like 10% of that.

 

[Iamback]

The fact they changed their membership structure just a few months into it suggests they weren’t confident of ever shifting 12k. I wonder how many they did actually sell of the full Suncorp and Redcliffe membership?

Many reasons behind that, The draw coming out maybe they got some dates they didn't want.

Suncorp was never an option for fulltime in 2023. If the numbers show Suncorp is better then they will move more games there

 

[MugaB]

Many reasons behind that, The draw coming out maybe they got some dates they didn't want.

Suncorp was never an option for fulltime in 2023. If the numbers show Suncorp is better then they will move more games there

Yeah i saw the last one of the three games in redcliffe is against penrith... they ain't winning that one

 

[Perth Red]

Like 40k active participants in wa, despite numbers like 10% of that.

Eh up the trolls back.

 

[Perth Red]

Many reasons behind that, The draw coming out maybe they got some dates they didn't want.

Suncorp was never an option for fulltime in 2023. If the numbers show Suncorp is better then they will move more games there

Fingers crossed. Nrl should not be allowing any club, let alone anew one, to play in unfit stadiums unless it’s a country game.

 

[Wb1234]

Go bears

 

[The Great Dane]

You predicted they would get record sponsorships that are bigger than most nrl clubs ?

Sure did lol.

I said all along that, at least initially, the 2nd Brisbane side would be well supported by corporates and sponsors no matter which team got the 2nd license. Pretty much everybody predicted that though, the sheer amount of demand for NRL sponsorship space in SEQ made it almost inevitable.

The Titans were similarly successful attracting sponsors initially as well. Mantaining that interest over an extended period is the real trick.

 

[The Great Dane]

We not even in 2023 & this guy declaring side has failed. Like I said toxic

You don't even bother to read what you respond to do you...

 

[Iamback]

Fingers crossed. Nrl should not be allowing any club, let alone anew one, to play in unfit stadiums unless it’s a country game.

They do safety checks on every ground, So they already do that

 

[Wb1234]

Sure did lol.

I said all along that, at least initially, the 2nd Brisbane side would be well supported by corporates and sponsors no matter which team got the 2nd license. Pretty much everybody predicted that though, the sheer amount of demand for NRL sponsorship space in SEQ made it almost inevitable.

The Titans were similarly successful attracting sponsors initially as well. Mantaining that interest over an extended period is the real trick.

Amuse me

provide a link to you saying this

 

[The Great Dane]

Amuse me

provide a link to you saying this

I wouldn’t waste my time on you even if I had it to sift through ancient threads looking for my old posts.

The threads are there, it’s your business if you want to read them.

BTW, the term is humour me, not amuse me.

 

[Wb1234]

I wouldn’t waste my time on you even if I had it to sift through ancient threads looking for my old posts.

The threads are there, it’s your business if you want to read them.

BTW, the term is humour me, not amuse me.

Yeh that’s what I expected

anyway humour me !

 

[MugaB]

BTW, the term is humour me, not amuse me.

Whats the difference? Fmd you're prickly

 

[The Great Dane]

Whats the difference? Fmd you're prickly

One is grammatically accurate, the other totally meaningless.