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Perth Red

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Even Perth red would look good in these
Dash of yellow and a new badge would look better.

I see theyve got 2000 members. Those other 198,000 NS fans must just be waiting for the Perth Bears to come along lol
Or maybe Vlad is a bit dyslexic and read 2,000 as 200,000?
 

SirPies&Beers

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Dash of yellow and a new badge would look better.

I see theyve got 2000 members. Those other 198,000 NS fans must just be waiting for the Perth Bears to come along lol
more bears bashing by the bell end that happily takes on bears members on his little circle jerk face book page cave. all while sticking his rod up the pipe of his shithouse mini.

perthwrongs, absolute piece of shit coward. says one thing here, says another thing there.
ding dong.
 

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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...onymous&mode=premium&v21=HIGH-Segment-2-SCORE

NRL expansion plans on hold as Peter V’landys prepares for TV rights talks​

New Zealand’s hopes for a second NRL team may have suffered a fatal blow, with Peter V’landys revealing plans for a 20-team premiership could be axed.
Peter Badel, Brent Read and Michael Carayannis

3 min read
February 27, 2025 - 5:00AM
News Sport Network


ARL Commission boss Peter V’landys has dropped an expansion bombshell by revealing plans for a 20-team league could be axed in a potentially fatal blow to New Zealand’s hopes of a second NRL team.

The NRL were aiming for 20 teams before the 2032 Brisbane Olympics, but that masterplan could be aborted in a move that will have major ramifications for the code’s next broadcast deal.

V’landys has been locked in delicate expansion negotiations, with Papua New Guinea confirmed for entry in 2028, while Perth’s Western Bears are slated for admission in 2027 pending talks after next month’s WA election.

As part of the NRL’s strategic plan, New Zealand has been identified as a key growth market, opening the door for a Kiwi outfit from the south island to be the code’s 20th franchise.

But as V’landys prepares to begin high-powered talks on rugby league’s next TV rights deal for 2028 and beyond, the ARLC chair concedes plans for a 20-team NRL could collapse.
Peter V'landys has revealed plans for a 20-team league could be axed. Picture: NewsWire / John Appleyard


Peter V'landys has revealed plans for a 20-team league could be axed. Picture: NewsWire / John Appleyard

“The 20th team is not in our immediate plans,” V’landys said.

“As I’ve said all at all times, the business case has to stack up and at this stage, the business case doesn’t stack up (for a 20-team NRL).

“Nineteen teams is possible because we believe the business case stands up, but we won’t do anything without going back to our (existing) clubs (for consultation).

“We’ve just had the annual general meeting (last week) and they (the 17 clubs) are an important stakeholder and they are players in this.

“When we determine what we believe is a strong business case (for 20 teams), we will then provide that business case to the clubs, players and state authorities to show why we are doing it.

“But at this stage, that business case (for 20 teams) has not been established.”

V’landys’ stance will come as both a crippling blow and a warning shot to prospective trans-Tasman franchises in the arms race to become the NRL’s second team in New Zealand.

The NRL won’t accept mediocre bids and, at this stage, League Central bosses have been far from impressed with the expansion submissions made by up to four proposed New Zealand consortia.
V’landys has been locked in delicate expansion negotiations, with Papua New Guinea confirmed for entry in 2028. Picture: NewsWire / John Appleyard


V’landys has been locked in delicate expansion negotiations, with Papua New Guinea confirmed for entry in 2028. Picture: NewsWire / John Appleyard

Christchurch has been touted as the perfect destination for a 20th team, but the heat is on the prospective bid teams to satisfy the NRL’s expansion demands.

Should the NRL proceed with an 18 or 19-team league, it could have repercussions for the code’s next broadcast deal, and the potential value the ARL Commission stands to generate.
A 20-team league would give the NRL 10 matches per week, two more than it currently offers broadcasters with a 17-team competition.

Adding another two franchises would give the NRL nine fixtures per round and V’landys is still confident that will provide the ARLC with added strength at the TV rights negotiating table.

There are fears the state-backed WA bid could also fall through, but V’landys is adamant the Western Bears are not dead.

“We’re going to go to the broadcasters with a format for 18, 19 or maybe 20 teams. At this stage it’s either 18 or 19,” V’landys said.

V'landys is adamant the state-backed Western Bears expansion bid is not dead.


V'landys is adamant the state-backed Western Bears expansion bid is not dead.

“For the next broadcast cycle, we will have either 18 or 19 teams, we will finalise that sooner rather than later.


“We downed our tools on Perth a few weeks ago.

“We gave a commitment to the WA government that we would put our tools down and respect it as an election process. Once the election process is over, we will get our tools again and recommence discussions.

“I am confident it (the Western Bears bid) will progress. They (WA government) will see the biggest beneficiary is WA with the economic benefit to Western Australia.”


NRL chief executive Andrew Abdo said there is a possibility the code may not have fresh expansion in New Zealand to complement the Warriors.

“With 18 teams, we have an extra game and a platform for growth in the future,” he said.

“Unless the business case stacks up, there is no urgency for us to go to 19 or 20 teams.
“It has to be compelling and that work will be done after the (WA) election.”


Wonder if this is actually WA Gov request that they'll fund the infrastructure and put the cash up for stadium and pathways etc but West Aussie Bears will need breathing room? That sounds more plausible than the NRL not wanting to go to the broadcasting table negotiations without 10 games.
 

wb2027

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Those other 198,000 NS fans must just be waiting for the Perth Bears to come along lol
This was said in jest but unironically it's far closer to the reality than you probably realise.

My personal barometer of post-99 Norths fans is approx 5% still follow the club at a NSW Cup level as financial members, 30% follow the club at a NSW Cup level more casually without being members because they're happy just spending money on the odd game or select merch, 40% are having their allegiance babysat by another NRL club in the meantime because they still enjoy the game but not enough to care about any other grades (can probably intersperse these with the prior 30%), and that remaining 25% still can't find enjoyment in the game at all after how the club was treated. That final category was far bigger post-Central Coast bid up until around 2023 when there's been more talk of a comeback in the news.
 

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Delay caused by Perth bears might push out the nz team to the next tv deal

Staying at 19 teams with a bye for five years would be unlikely though
 

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Delay caused by Perth bears might push out the nz team to the next tv deal

Staying at 19 teams with a bye for five years would be unlikely though
The rumour was club 20 wasnt going to be coming in until 2032 ish anyway. They will likely want time between 2 clubs coming and a third one to assess player depth impact of club 18&19.
We will have had a 17 club comp for 4-5 years by time club 18 comes in.
 

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The rumour was club 20 wasnt going to be coming in until 2032 ish anyway. They will likely want time between 2 clubs coming and a third one to assess player depth impact of club 18&19.
We will have had a 17 club comp for 4-5 years by time club 18 comes in.
Thanks chuckles
 

Perth Red

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This was said in jest but unironically it's far closer to the reality than you probably realise.

My personal barometer of post-99 Norths fans is approx 5% still follow the club at a NSW Cup level as financial members, 30% follow the club at a NSW Cup level more casually without being members because they're happy just spending money on the odd game or select merch, 40% are having their allegiance babysat by another NRL club in the meantime because they still enjoy the game but not enough to care about any other grades (can probably intersperse these with the prior 30%), and that remaining 25% still can't find enjoyment in the game at all after how the club was treated. That final category was far bigger post-Central Coast bid up until around 2023 when there's been more talk of a comeback in the news.
What do you think a realistic number of NS fans is that would become members of a Perth Bears Wb? I'm confident Perth side can generate 15-20k members from day 1.
 

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The rumour was club 20 wasnt going to be coming in until 2032 ish anyway. They will likely want time between 2 clubs coming and a third one to assess player depth impact of club 18&19.
We will have had a 17 club comp for 4-5 years by time club 18 comes in.
why not just ask red&blackbears, seriously that guys been almost spot on not just on west aussie bears stuff but other stuff too in regard to expansion. he was sayings that team 20 was very unlikely and gave reasons why (which look to be spot on) 6 months ago and no one took him seriously then. its getting old and hilarious seeing the same dickheads egg posters like him on yet end up with egg on their faces. ps youre one of those dickheads perthwrongs.
 

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What do you think a realistic number of NS fans is that would become members of a Perth Bears Wb? I'm confident Perth side can generate 15-20k members from day 1.

First week at least if not day 1, especially if they have sights on doing one of those Tassie Devil $10 sticker memberships.
 

dannlarusso

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I need to ask since I lurk these threads while I work, but what is the deal with the bickering on these expansion threads? lol

In one corner you have Perth Red who I assume is from WA, and wants to see Perth get a team and soon, and claims to have inside knowledge from someone within/around the bid, and in the other corner you have SirPies&Beers who really dislikes Perth Red and everything he seems to stand for and is potentially a North Sydney fan?

I have no dog in the fight I just need to clarify why there's this fight ongoing in every expansion thread.
 

Wb1234

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I need to ask since I lurk these threads while I work, but what is the deal with the bickering on these expansion threads? lol

In one corner you have Perth Red who I assume is from WA, and wants to see Perth get a team and soon, and claims to have inside knowledge from someone within/around the bid, and in the other corner you have SirPies&Beers who really dislikes Perth Red and everything he seems to stand for and is potentially a North Sydney fan?

I have no dog in the fight I just need to clarify why there's this fight ongoing in every expansion thread.
Perth Ted talks bs and has been bagging rugby league for 20 years. This is the only bid he should be a clue about and doesn’t

He’s lukewarm about the bid since his mate got rejected

The only person that knows what’s going on is @redandblackbear everyone else is guessing
 

SirPies&Beers

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I need to ask since I lurk these threads while I work, but what is the deal with the bickering on these expansion threads? lol

In one corner you have Perth Red who I assume is from WA, and wants to see Perth get a team and soon, and claims to have inside knowledge from someone within/around the bid, and in the other corner you have SirPies&Beers who really dislikes Perth Red and everything he seems to stand for and is potentially a North Sydney fan?

I have no dog in the fight I just need to clarify why there's this fight ongoing in every expansion thread.
sharkies fan here larusso. most peoples here like updates and to chat expansion.

but a few peoples claim to have inside government sources and state things as if they are fait accompli. perthwrongs is that person and everytime he types something as fact, its wrong, every opinion he has ends up being incorrect, every bit of info he claims is legit is proven that its not. he is a liar. he runs cave facebook page and is pro bears there and likes that 3000-4000 people have added to his membership numbers and yet here he rubbishes them. he is a coward.

he is just clueless. at first i thought he had intel and info but turns out he has as much intel and info as a dried up dog shit.

its ok if he doesnt have real info but to constantly claim it and it still gets proven wrong is just sad.
 
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Wb1234

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sharkies fan here larusso. most peoples here like updates and to chat expansion.

but a few peoples claim to have inside government sources and state things as if they are fait accompli. perthwrongs is that person and everytime he types something as fact, its wrong, every opinion he has ends up being incorrect, every bit of info he claims is legit is proven that its not. he is a liar. he runs cave facebook page and is pro bears there and likes that 3000-4000 people have added to his membership numbers and yet here he rubbishes them. he is a coward.

he is just clueless. at first i thought he had intel and info but turns out he has as much intel and info as a dried up dog shit.
Sharks huh? My comiserstions

Moses up for the guy from Tasmania who claims sharks but really swans
 

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