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Was he held? - Tackle Rule

azsportza

Live Update Team
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Out of Sunday Afternoon Football, many Gold Coast Titans fans not only upset with the lose at home, but with a ruling from the referee’s in the 33th minute in regards to play on call. Many fans calling the referee out as a result of the call going the way of the Warriors’ Elijah Taylor. Watching the incident live and then again on replay you can hear that the referee’s don’t call held and yell play on after Taylor bounces to his feet.

INCIDENT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr2M8zqk37A (1:32 - 2:02)

The OFFICIAL international laws of the game state:

SECTION 11
THE TACKLE AND PLAY-THE-BALL

Tackle player 1. A player in possession may be tackled by an
in possession opposing player or players. It is illegal to tackle or
obstruct a player who is not in possession.

When tackled: 2. A player in possession is tackled:
Grounded (a) when he is held by one or more opposing players
and the ball or the hand or arm holding the ball
comes into contact with the ground.

Upright (b) when he is held by one or more opposing players
in such a manner that he can make no further
progress and cannot part with the ball.

Succumbing (c) when, being held by an opponent, the tackled
player makes it evident that he has succumbed to
the tackle and wishes to be released in order to
play the ball.

Hand on player (d) when he is lying on the ground and an opponent
already grounded places a hand on him

Have a read above, and you quickly discover that the referee’s made the right call. Taylor never grounded the ball, thus deeming a play on call. Taylor didn’t succumb to the tackle, thus deeming a play on call. Finally, Taylor wasn’t “held by one or more opposing players”, thus deeming a play on call. To the Titans fans who called “Bullshit” on this, read the rules and you will understand. Amazing to say but the referee’s got it right for once.

COMMENTS: Was he held...Did the Referee's get it right? Why or Why Not
 

Parra Pride

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They got it right, not only was the ball not grounded but neither tackler put a hand on him to complete the tackle. It's the Titans fault he scored, when I played footy one thing my coach always used to say, "you play to the whistle" not "look at the ref and appeal for a penalty."
 

LeagueNut

First Grade
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When I first saw it, I thought Taylor was asking whether the tackle count had restarted or whether it was a handover.

It was a 50/50 call IMO but I'll take it. :)

The Titans markers that just watched him go past deserve a kick up the arse.
 

Rebound

Juniors
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Wasn't held, ball didn't hit the tarmac, refs said play on 2-3 times before he gapped it, Titans switched off completely.
 

Warmess

Juniors
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Pretty clean cut try. Only looks bad because he stood there and asked the ref while the Titans players marked up.
 

hitman82

Bench
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Taylor showed great maturity to firstly ask, then not hesitate at all before planting the ball. After watching replays it was clear no Titan had a hand on him.
 

Meth

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Fair try, but bizarre. The tackle wasn't effected and the referees clearly called play on.

If he had of played the ball, he would have been penalized, right?
 

Meth

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It was the last tackle wasnt it? (unless 6-to-go was ruled)

the markers were lining up and he was looking for approval from the referee to play the ball or play on. I'd say that the tackle count had been restarted
 

Coaster

Bench
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You can make a case both ways for 50/50 calls.

We just do not seem to get any of them this year.
The try against STG, where a player was impeded by the Ref.
Try from the Tigers, clearly knocked on
Play the ball penalties against Parra and Roosters
No trys against Broncos Roosters, Parra, and Tigers
This held call try against Warriors

As a fan you can accept losing your fair share of these, but this has been constant all year against us, its driving people away from the game.
 

Meth

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I don't think that this call was controversial at all. The referee never called held. He clearly wasn't held. So he wasn't held.
 
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There was one person who played to the whistle so to speak and that was the try scorer.

I think it was a fair call technically but I wouldnt be blowing up if he was called to play the ball either.

Also they deserved to concede points after that attempt by Preston.
 

ouwet

Bench
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Definitely didn't get held! The most controversial call on that play was the 6 again... Titans didn't go anywhere near touching the ball!
 

ozenzud

Juniors
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I agree that it was not held because the refs clearly called it and he hit the ground and didn't have a hand on him. It would have been no drama if the GCT players dived on him to slow the play down (which is what they would have been coached to do).

The 50/50 (if I'm being conservative) calls were the knock on from the kickoff and Maras non knock on.

Nice to get the 50/50 calls for a change. Too often I've wanted to pen a letter to Gallop demanding a ref be sacked! We've had our fair share of bad calls this year!
 

Penrose Warrior

First Grade
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You can make a case both ways for 50/50 calls.

We just do not seem to get any of them this year.
The try against STG, where a player was impeded by the Ref.
Try from the Tigers, clearly knocked on
Play the ball penalties against Parra and Roosters
No trys against Broncos Roosters, Parra, and Tigers
This held call try against Warriors

As a fan you can accept losing your fair share of these, but this has been constant all year against us, its driving people away from the game.

The Taylor one wasn't 50/50 - it was clear-cut.

I'd suggest being 3 from 9 is probably driving more people away from the game in your area. The Warriors have been royally dudded up the arse since 1995 and we're still supporting our team.
 

Coaster

Bench
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I'd suggest being 3 from 9 is probably driving more people away from the game in your area. The Warriors have been royally dudded up the arse since 1995 and we're still supporting our team.

The calls from the refs are a part of the reason we are 3 from 9. Not the game yesterday but the game against parra, for sure. We are still supporting them, our Average still wipes the floor with yours.
 

Frailty

First Grade
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The calls from the refs are a part of the reason we are 3 from 9. Not the game yesterday but the game against parra, for sure. We are still supporting them, our Average still wipes the floor with yours.

Bullshit...

Who do you think you are? Skeepe?
 

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