Wayne Bennett to finish up at St George

[Mr Spock!]

Shall we lower it just for wayne? How about winning the srcum stats in the Charity shield?

To be better than someone who won three in a row, you have to win 4 in a row. Simple.


The salary cap helped Bennet at Brisbane in 3 ways. First, they were the only club that didn't have to include reserve grade in the cap. Second, lower cost of living in Brisbane compared to Sydney was a key bargaining point then - as in Dale Shearer telling Manly officials that he couldn't afford to live there. And Third, lots of third party payments - dressed up as players business investments.

In fact, if you wanna compare premierships, Gibson went back to back against the test pack in 82/83. From memory, Saints pack a decade later had 3 internationals, and none from the backs?

I haven't checked, but neither Easts or Parra under Gibson regularly had 11 test/origin players. I do recall that many in the media laughed at the pack Gibson amassed at Parra in 1981. I do recall Greg Hartley and Peter Peters saying that if Parra won the comp with Bob O'Reilly and Kevin Stevens in the pack they would walk from Wollongong to Newcastle in thongs.
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Agreed. From the inception of the Broncos, Bennett has had a SOO team at his disposal. Jack took on the challenges of lesser teams. Everyone talks about Bennett wanting to coach teams which have the cattle to get him another GF. I don't know what Jack was thinking of when he went to Souths in 1978. Either they threw a heap of cash (which i doubt they had since they nearly went broke in the seventies hence the Save Our Souths campaign) at him or he decided to do something in the interest of the game and help out a struggling club.

In 75 Souths took the spoon and in 1977 Souths had a 3-19 record to finish above Newtown 2-20 in the cripple fight race for the spoon. They were dark days for Souths. In 78 Jack took Souths to within 3 points of the 5, a great achievement given the lack of talent (and money) he had to work with and from then on Souths were competitive till the 90s.

 

[Loudstrat]

Jack took over Easts as spooners in 66, took them to the finals in 67.
Jack took over Newtown in 73 (out of finals in 72) - 3rd in 73
Jack too Eastrs from mising the finals in 73, to premiers in 74-75.
Jack took Parra from missing the finals in 1980, to premiers for the next 3 years
Jack took on second last Souffs (3 wins in 77) to 12 wins in 1979

Bennet has only coached gun sides. And those that are about to say how terrible Saints were in 2008 - they got to 30 points - double what any club had when Jack took over.

 

[gallagher]

Jack took over Easts as spooners in 66, took them to the finals in 67.
Jack took over Newtown in 73 (out of finals in 72) - 3rd in 73
Jack too Eastrs from mising the finals in 73, to premiers in 74-75.
Jack took Parra from missing the finals in 1980, to premiers for the next 3 years
Jack took on second last Souffs (3 wins in 77) to 12 wins in 1979

Bennet has only coached gun sides. And those that are about to say how terrible Saints were in 2008 - they got to 30 points - double what any club had when Jack took over.

Both great coaches but your post is slanted one way. Bennett got the raiders to the g/f in 87 along with Don Furner. Hardly a gun side,
And how did Jack go with Cronulla? And having Mario Fenech play the ball when NSW had a tap to restart play in the early 90's. The same time he ignored Aus reps Sirro and Blocker for NSW?

 

[Firey_Dragon]

Jack took over Easts as spooners in 66, took them to the finals in 67.
Jack took over Newtown in 73 (out of finals in 72) - 3rd in 73
Jack too Eastrs from mising the finals in 73, to premiers in 74-75.
Jack took Parra from missing the finals in 1980, to premiers for the next 3 years
Jack took on second last Souffs (3 wins in 77) to 12 wins in 1979

Bennet has only coached gun sides. And those that are about to say how terrible Saints were in 2008 - they got to 30 points - double what any club had when Jack took over.

Gun sides? We were a rabble in 2008, we barely made the finals and got flogged in the final we played in. The year before that we came 10th or 11th. Bennett turned our team into a gun side.

 

[The 18th Man]

Oh here we go, the coach being penalised for having star players BS again. Name one Grand Final winning team without stars from that era in their side.

 

[Rusty]

The chase will be over in less than 30 days. I actually think he's already chosen Souths but even if he hasn't it will be wrapped up well before the season starts. Bennett won't let the speculation drag on into the season.

First you say 'He's coming to Redfern' then you say 'He won't let the speculation drag on into the season'. If the deal is done, what's the delay? Is he waiting to see the outcome of the Tinkler takeover by any chance? Because when the takeover is approved, Tinkler will put in a healthy bid for Bennetts services guaranteed.

 

[Spot On]

First you say 'He's coming to Redfern' then you say 'He won't let the speculation drag on into the season'. If the deal is done, what's the delay? Is he waiting to see the outcome of the Tinkler takeover by any chance? Because when the takeover is approved, Tinkler will put in a healthy bid for Bennetts services guaranteed.

Yes. What is the delay??? Hmm...... it may be the same delay that is causing two very good front rowers to take a little bit of time to commit to their current clubs where they are reportedly very happy. Tinkler's presence is causing a frenzy among player managers who will happily rape and pillage to the best of their ability now there is a new cash cow on the horizon. The "let's wait and see what happens at Newcastle line" is in overdrive.

 

[Rusty]

That's probably the most likely scenario. But it wasn't that long ago that Broncos fans would have laughed at the possibility of Bennett coaching anywhere else. If he could leave them Bellamy can leave the Storm.

Recent history tells us if Crowe gets someone alone in a room, it's tough to say no to him.

Bennett obviously is plan A, but if he retires or something, Bellamy and Sheens will be plan B.

I read a while ago Crowe was keen on an expierienced coach with a proven track record of success. Those 3 were mentioned. IMO Bennett is the most likely, then Sheens, then Bellamy. One of them will be coaching us to our 21st or 22nd premiership.

I meant this year specifically. Everyone knows the sharks will be circling if the Broncos get off to a bad start.

You are off your cracker!

 

[Jubileeboy]

First you say 'He's coming to Redfern' then you say 'He won't let the speculation drag on into the season'. If the deal is done, what's the delay? Is he waiting to see the outcome of the Tinkler takeover by any chance? Because when the takeover is approved, Tinkler will put in a healthy bid for Bennetts services guaranteed.

BuM is just waiting for the next News Limited article for source material.

Selective memory from this child...reality is, he has no f**king idea what Wayne Bennett is doing.

 

[thommo4pm]

Gun sides? We were a rabble in 2008, we barely made the finals and got flogged in the final we played in. The year before that we came 10th or 11th. Bennett turned our team into a gun side.

I don't think we were a rabble in 2008. We finished 7th and going into the last round of the comp, were still a chance at finishing top 4. If we got over Easts in the final round we most likely would have finished top 4.
Browny did a good job that year with basically a side of kids, including Nighty, Morris boys, Soward, Stanley, Prior, Poore, Hunt, among others.
Our defence was actually quite good that year, 2007 was a bad year with so many injuries and losing so many players at the end of 2006.
In 2008, we were just unfortunate to be drawn up against a rampant Manly in the first week of the finals. Nobody would have beat them that night, look what they did in the GF that year.

 

[Southern Rooster]

Wesser and Merritt off contract. I'd say Wesser is on 200k and Merritt would be close to 300k. Plus Talanoa who we'll palm off to the Dragons as a consolation prize. We'll be able to afford Boyd and Nightingale.

Do you read your sh*t before hitting "submit reply".

 

[The 18th Man]

Merritt at $300k? :lol: Please, I'd hope not for Souths sake. Wesser would be in the $150-200k range. Though Merritt if he is anywhere near that amount is being paid well and truly over what I would perceive his market value in the NRL, perhaps not so in the Super League.

 

[thommo4pm]

Thanks to Souths for ruling yourselves out of the race to get Bennett tonight.

 

[Loudstrat]

Both great coaches but your post is slanted one way. Bennett got the raiders to the g/f in 87 along with Don Furner. Hardly a gun side,

A gun side in the making though.

And how did Jack go with Cronulla? And having Mario Fenech play the ball when NSW had a tap to restart play in the early 90's. The same time he ignored Aus reps Sirro and Blocker for NSW?

Pfft. A TAP move is all you have with Jack? Seen some of the sides Bennet has picked you dunce?

Gun sides? We were a rabble in 2008, we barely made the finals and got flogged in the final we played in. The year before that we came 10th or 11th. Bennett turned our team into a gun side.

The only side Jack took over as semi finallists were Saints. Hetook 4 other coaching appointments of non finallists to the semis in his first year. And thoise sides WON their semis in this first years. How did Bennet go with Saints in the first season again?

Gibsons sides never choked. Outplayed, maybe. Choked - never. And I reckon that if Jack coached Parra to Ray Prices retirement, we would have won 6 straight.

Oh here we go, the coach being penalised for having star players BS again. Name one Grand Final winning team without stars from that era in their side.

Penalised? You stupid dickhead. Bennet should have won more comps with some of those bronco squads!

And to answer your question - Canterbury 1988. Saints in 77 were poorly represented in rep sides. Parra in 1986 only had 2 players selected for the kangaroo tour, although I think they were a definite gun side.

 

[Pigskin]

This thread has turned into comedy capers. Some of the recent points go beyond funny and straight to crazy/ridiculous.

1. We have Loudstrat spouting his usual anti-anything-queensland garbage.
2. Then we have Souths supporters spouting how Bennett is over the line going to them and what a great side they have.
3. Some neutrals and Dragons fans lauding the Dragons team of 2008, and insinuating their premiership team of last year is top shelf.

Hello ! Hello ! Is there anything at all in your vacuous heads of yours ?

Lets get a few things straight.

1. Souths fans, you may well get your man ... but you will pay for it. In the mean time how bout your great team make the finals and actually do something ON the field. There are 2 reasons WB would go to Souths. His passion for historical clubs succeeding for the betterment of the game, and for a truckload of Rusty's cash.

2. The Dragons were a rabble in 2008. We have a top 8 ! We reward mediocrity in our sport. They were crap then and now having matured and learnt some basic principles are still crap, yet disciplined enough and enthusiastic enough to beat a bunch of no hoper teams levelled by the salary cap. The Dragons have the best coach in a very even/poor era. The premiership side of last year (having beat all before them and justified winners) wouldn't come within 1000 miles of some of the winning sides of the last decade, let alone through the 90's.

3. Give Wayne some credit. We have no idea who is the best coach, and never will. Generation gap, compare eras. Doesn't work, you know it and to say otherwise is sheer folly. Just like everything else that comes out of Loudstrats trap. When Wayne was at Brisbane, always had champ sides. Now he wins a comp and a minor premiership with a rabble and he is still crap. Hahaha.

4. Don't rule out the possibility that he will come home to the Broncos or even coach the Cowboys. Queensland is where its at, and Wayne knows it. And wouldn't that be great Loudstrat.

Bunch of tossers.

Oink !

 

[Loudstrat]

Pigskin. I know you wank over your bennet pic each night, but care to mention jack Gibson's career at all?You HAVE head of Jack Gibson? The bloke who took 4 rabble teams to the finals in his first year? The bloke who won 3 straight and also back to Back?

3 wins off a premiership isn't a rabble. It's a healthier club than Gibson ever inherited.

 

[Pigskin]

You can have Wayne, he is only a stop gap at his age. I hope we throw our considerable cheque-book at Bellamy when Henjak finishes failing.

Oink !

 

[Dragon]

Pigskin. I know you wank over your bennet pic each night, but care to mention jack Gibson's career at all?You HAVE head of Jack Gibson? The bloke who took 4 rabble teams to the finals in his first year? The bloke who won 3 straight and also back to Back?

3 wins off a premiership isn't a rabble. It's a healthier club than Gibson ever inherited.

Turn the distortion down loudy ffs

 

[Firey_Dragon]

A gun side in the making though.Pfft. A TAP move is all you have with Jack? Seen some of the sides Bennet has picked you dunce?

The only side Jack took over as semi finallists were Saints. Hetook 4 other coaching appointments of non finallists to the semis in his first year. And thoise sides WON their semis in this first years. How did Bennet go with Saints in the first season again?

Gibsons sides never choked. Outplayed, maybe. Choked - never. And I reckon that if Jack coached Parra to Ray Prices retirement, we would have won 6 straight.

Penalised? You stupid dickhead. Bennet should have won more comps with some of those bronco squads!

And to answer your question - Canterbury 1988. Saints in 77 were poorly represented in rep sides. Parra in 1986 only had 2 players selected for the kangaroo tour, although I think they were a definite gun side.

Our entire forward pack required surgery after the 2009 season. We had a guy also playing with glandular fever. It's a myth that the Dragons choked in 2009. Truth is, the last good game we played was against Melbourne, I believe that was in round 20. Our forward pack was incredibly tired by the end of the season. We were showing signs of struggling well before the finals.

I'm not going to bother arguing who is the better coach. Both are/were brilliant in their respective era's.

 

[Loudstrat]

Gibbo would have got you there in 09 AND 10.