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Wests 1999 V Newcastle 2005....Who is worse?

PJ Marshal

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souths need to win 2 more games and i think they are safe from the spoon

i mean newcastle winning 5 games this year....HEH!

Souths Winning 2 more games this year Though.......HEH!
 

Gene Krupa

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I didn't say that the Knights were good. Just that the Sharks have choked everytime they've had an opportunity.

And if you actually read what I said, it was ANY team to have won a premiership. Wests, Balmain and St George have actually carried the trophy around the park. Sharks went CHOKE CHOKE at their tries!
 

PJ Marshal

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newcastle need a john morris and a luke covell

morris for good hairstyles, fashion sense and super hot 5/8 play

and covell for his heart and determination and speed
 

innsaneink

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PJ Marshal said:
newcastle need a john morris and a luke covell

morris for good hairstyles, fashion sense and super hot 5/8 play

and covell for his heart and determination and speed

Wests Tigers could use a prop with either an Elvis do, or green flouro boots.
 

gregstar

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white pointer! said:
Or the st george illawarra dragons.
for your information d*ck, if saints win this year it will be recognised as their 16th title
cram it gaylord!
 

Bomber

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After nine games (the only fair way to compare both sides)

Wests 1999:
Won 1, Lost 8
For: 106
Against: 326
Won by 1-10 once
Lost by 11-20 four times
Lost by 20+ five times

Newcastle 2005:
Won 0, Lost 9
For: 118
Against: 308
Lost by 1-10 three times
Lost by 11-20 once
Lost by 20+ five times
 
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Its an interesting comparison.
Newcastle arent as pathetic in defense as the wests side were in 99 although their attack is probably on par. In fact, the magpies were always reliable to score three entertaining tries a game despite letting in 12 by halftime.

Perhaps a more apt comparison would be Balmain in 94- they were a team with a contrast of classy and truly horrendous players- ie Brasher, elias, sironen, will robinson even morvin edwards and at the lower eshlons they had John Bentley, bernard carrol, greg boruke, derrick McVey...
For the current Knights Buderus and Simpson look out of place in an otherwise sub-standard side.

Of course, for those of us who remember, Gold Coast in 93', Wests in 1984 and the inaugural Canberra side in 1982 all have solid claim to being the worst side (in the last 25 years!).

GC 93 win!
 
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Moffo said:
Tell you what, Souths have had some horrible years in the 90s!

The only year they came last was in 1990 after being minor premiers in 1989.
You forget that there was so many other terrible sides during the 90s like south qld, gold coast and wests who were keeping Souths off the bottom rung.
 

wittyfan

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Wests actually won games in 1999. That's the big difference here.

Do Newcastle play Souths again? If not, 0-24 is very likely at this point.
 

*Paul*

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Newcastle are first side since 1969 to drop their first nine games. Eight teams have done 10, the record is 18 - Easts in 1966 went winless.
 

Paul Hewson

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sullyfan said:
Wests actually won games in 1999. That's the big difference here.

Do Newcastle play Souths again? If not, 0-24 is very likely at this point.

They don't play Souths again.
 

Jono078

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All stats say Wests were worse.

West 1999 avg points scored per game: 11.9
West 1999 avg points conceded per game: 39.3
Difference = 27.5

Knights 2005 avg points scored per game: 14.2
Knights 2005 avg points conceded per game: 34.2
Difference: 20.0

And I think we will continue to get better, We are going what Warriors went through, only our management is sh*t and we have plenty of injuries.
 

Frailty

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I don't think you can use those stats...

because the game today is completely different...

The competition is much closer than it was in 1999, faster game which means more tries are let in, etc. It's like asking to compare players of different generations, you can't. So it comes to my conclusion....


... Both of them were/are sh*t.
 

Jono078

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Whether you can compare them or not, they are the facts atm. With players... You really have nothing to go off to compare, as there is no stat for leadership and so on lol.
 

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