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What is our best forward pack ?

Discussion in 'St George Illawarra Dragons' started by Saints Forever, Nov 26, 2016.

  1. TomRedVRiver

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    I'm perfectly aware BennyV can take care of himself, he's a big boy. I just turn my nose up at people like you who try to take the moral ground in disputes by talking down to people using obnoxiously sophisticated language when it is so... SO unnecessary.

    Let's get back to talking footy. I'll start by addressing your earlier points.
    If you truly believe the versatility of Marketo to be invaluable, yet you write off Vaughan as a reserve grader, your perception of ability is clearly deluded.
    Vaughan was being tipped for Origin and Australia in 2015. He had a year plagued with injury this year, not to mention it was made pretty clear that Vaughan and Ricky Stuart didn't see eye to eye, hence why he spent time in reserve grade.
    With Vaughan at full fitness he is a phenomenal footballer, that much is obvious.
    Mcinnes is a massive upgrade on Rein and I believe with the chance to cement a full time Hooker position he could be something special. He's tenacious, fast out of dummy half and incredibly tough.

    Marketo tries really hard, granted, but he is so vanilla it's ridiculous. Just because a player has versatility, doesn't mean they're good enough. He's too small and far too predictable. Offers nothing in attack and in defence is easily replaceable.
     
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  2. Dragon Revival

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    When Mary falls on his sword we should replace him with Head and Coast.
     
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  3. Dragsters

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    Packer

    McInnes

    Vaughan

    Sims

    Thompson

    Frizz

    Bench:

    JDB

    Mosoe

    Host

    Leilua
     
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  4. roach_83

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    This would be the forward I'd like to see but I'd swap sims and frizell around so sims stays in the middle
     
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  5. Gareth67

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    All are great packs , the good news for the fans next year , is regardless of what pack starts the game , we will always have plenty of size on the field . So tired of watching our smaller pack ( which tried their best ) over the last few seasons , being pushed around by the much larger teams , and as a result eventually tiring because of their efforts .

    At the very least we will hold our own in the forwards , giving our backs every chance to show their attacking skills .
     
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  6. Willow

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    OK, back on topic...

    K Ryan, K Kearney, C Young
    N Provan G Tallis
    J Raper

    Bench: Noone
     
  7. The Doc

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    We can pick and choose our pack all we like... but lets remember who the master coach is!!!
    The pack in round 1(and 2 and 3 and 4 etc) will be:
    AhMau
    McInness
    Packer
    Frizz
    Thompson
    JDB

    Bench: Marketo, Mathews, Simms, Mcrone
     
  8. TomRedVRiver

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    If Coyne has any power, he would be breathing down McGregor's neck with this sort of shit.
    You're so right though. I can't even tell you how many veins I burst during the season when McGregor would only play Frizell for like 50 or 60 minutes and replace him with Marketo or Matthews. It's not like the guy played 80 minutes at lock in Origin and was one of the best players of the series or anything.
     
  9. Saints Forever

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    Ryan/Walsh/ or Wilson/Wittenberg/Rassmussen/Young
    Provan or Tallis/Jansen/Reddy
    Raper
     
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  10. Willow

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    All great players SF.

    No surprise that Raper and Provan are usually selected without question.
     
  11. Dragsters

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    I'm renewing my membership right now!
     
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    I'd be happy with that as well.

    Friz played very well in the middle in his reply footy.
     
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    It was the bench that swayed you.
     
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  14. BennyV

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    Cute. Really cute.

    I could ask you to specify where I displayed any attributes of a sophist or a bigot, but I'd wager my mortgage that you couldnt come up with either, much like your inability to properly justify Marketo in your team.

    Your style of arguing is scarily like Vasilevsky - you lack any content or substance to your arguments, you fail to justify your position and you attempt to mask this by making personal attacks using what you believe is sophisticated language. However, many of your references and labels are obscure, out-of-context or simply wrong. Vas's favourite was 'vis-a-vis', looks like 'tautology' and 'bigot' will be at the top of your google search in the near future. Enjoy.
     
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  15. Dragsters

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    Indeed.

    Noone is the the single most hyped player of the pre-season.

    Training the proverbial house down I hear!
     
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  16. roach_83

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    Friz does play well where ever you put him I reckon tariq needs to be in the middle (like another prop) so he gets more involved, if he plays out in the edge he tends to get abit lazy
     
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    Sad but probably true. On the upside however, another probable truth is, if Mary doesn't change he'll be gonski.

    Im with you and everyone else really, I'm keen to see a new blend of players throughout the starting team who will bringing their unique qualities together and work to get new result.
     
  19. Uplifting

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    I think the 2015 pack was strong. The only points that standout to me are:

    - giving away size by playing Thompson
    - playing JDB as a slow moving playmaker in attack. He can pass the ball and does create opportunities but there are other big men who have a more natural approach. I think he should stick to his real strength, defence and just do his best to run good hard lines.
    - Ah Mau just looked to be overtired in some games. Hopefully he'll freshen up for the new season and be rested when it's needed. Or possibly play him on the edge again, we all know he has great footwork.
     
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  20. Uplifting

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    Packer
    McInness
    Masoe
    Friz
    Ah Mau
    Sims

    Bench:
    Vaughan
    Host
    Luch (if a dragon) otherwise Robson
    JDB
     

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