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what is our biggest issue?

Discussion in 'Newcastle Knights' started by macavity, Jun 20, 2016.

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biggest problem (within our control)

  1. Coaching

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  2. Backline

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  3. Pack

    2 vote(s)
    10.5%
  4. Spine

    16 vote(s)
    84.2%
  1. Spot On

    Spot On Coach

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    100% agree that a leader T. Sims is not.
     
  2. macavity

    macavity Coach

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    http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2016/03/portland_steel_trade_for_forme.html

    Colt Lyerla - 6'4, 110kg, would be one of the faster players in the NRL. Hands like catchers mitts and loves physical contact.

    Was a star TE in college for Oregon, the Packers picked him up UDFA, and he did his ACL in pre-season and was let go.

    Played RL prop in France for a year for a holiday, then went back to the USA to play Arena League. So he has played the game.

    Exactly the type of guy worth offering a second tier contract - low risk, high reward.

    And you wouldn't have to offer any of them $250k - if they don't make the NFL, NFL Europe pays about $20k a year, and Arena Football pays $830 a game... most end up selling cars or something like that as it pays more.
     
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  3. K-Man

    K-Man Juniors

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    Agree with everything. It's pretty much how I saw it playing out before the season. The spine is so far below the rest of the NRL. I think it could even be argued that in each individual position we have the worst 1, 6, 7 and 9. Not just the worst spine overall, but the worst player in all 4 spots. You can't really be competitive with that.

    I don't know how we would do it, or if there's any chance at all, but somehow we need to replace as many of Gagai, Mullen and Hodkinson as possible. Homes and Hastings improves our team significantly.

    We may have to wait until 2018 to make any progress. I can't see Mullen or Gagai (not at fullback anyway) here beyond next year. Hodko is the biggest problem, we're stuck with him and that's a nightmare.
     
  4. Spot On

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    Am I the only one who doesn't see much in Hastings?
     
  5. mozza91

    mozza91 First Grade

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    No your not. Matterson has been more impressive in his few games at 5/8.
     
  6. Noname36

    Noname36 First Grade

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    Defence.
     
  7. Noname36

    Noname36 First Grade

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    No.
     
  8. Yosh

    Yosh First Grade

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    We should only work on defence for the rest of the season. Don't care if we don't win another game. Would be happy to concede less than 2 tries a game for once
     
  9. KeepingTheFaith

    KeepingTheFaith Referee

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    Was having a discussion with a friend about the Knights earlier in the week, thought I'd get the viewpoints from fans who watch the team a lot closer than myself or him.

    One of my big concerns for the Knights is that they've cut/lost so many experienced players. There's no doubt a lot of those players weren't up to scratch anymore, but is there a concern for you guys that while the young guys have far more potential, their growth could be limited without experienced players around to help them develop?

    I feel that the Knights are treading that line between putting a broom through the place and cutting off their nose to spite their face.

    Has management put forward any hints at recruitment? There isn't a lot of top shelf buys available, but there are some guys out there who might help to plug the gap in the team both talent wise and experience Getting that gamebreaker might prove impossible until some consistent competitive performances can be put together first.

    Along a similar vein, surely the Knights won't let Ross/Rochow go? Are they close to re-signing or not? While they might not be stars, they're guys you can't afford to lose IMO.

    Must admit I've taken a bit of a fascination with the Knights this year. In the modern salary cap era I didn't think it was possible for a team to fall this far behind the others (not trying to troll, it's a genuine fascination that makes me curious to watch the Knights each week). Having said that, it's not all doom and gloom. Consider yourself lucky you're not a Warriors fan.
     
  10. macavity

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    We aren't in the salary cap era, we are in the TPA era. Big difference. A few other teams are at risk of joining us at the back of the pack, and we sure as hell aren't moving up unless something changes with our circumstances.
     
  11. orochimaru

    orochimaru Juniors

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    It's awfully painful to be a knights supporter, if I was a douchebag I'd folow another team, but sadly I am loyal and subjet to ridicule at work consitantly.
     
  12. knightsarmy

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    lack of experience in recruiting
    lack of form
    letting players go because they want to
     
  13. Zoidberg

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    I feel ya buddy.
     
  14. Mr_Knightside

    Mr_Knightside Juniors

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    I feel exactly the same way, I get sledged by my work colleagues after every humiliating loss... So every week at the moment.
     
  15. Still Nutty

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    Does anybody know if we have a dedicated defensive coach and who it is? (I hope its not Bedsy)

    This was one of things I thought Brown would focus on for this squad but it doesn't appear that we (as a club) have gone forward on this front all year.

    My understanding is that defensive structures and plays are implemented across all grades, so that regardless of who you need to draw on from within the club to fill FG, the patterns, structures and processes are all the same?

    If that is the case at Newcastle, then the structural defensive issues we seem to identify are as much a product of poor coaching, as they are of poor execution and that is something that should be addressed, regardless of how individuals go from week to week.
     
  16. NoSchitSherlock

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    Could be the case that we are getting it right at training but falling apart during the game. Bennet made mention of that last year.
    This year it was brought up earlier how good were at line speed and in around the ruck in defence. Mention was made that we somehow just left that behind and needed to focus on it.
    I reckon we have trained for t but the young guys aren't up to it during the game or we've been beat up so badly we fall back on old ways.
     
  17. Caped Crusader

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    Fatigue, both physical and mental, is the biggest factor in poor defence

    Attitude being the 2nd biggest factor
     
  18. Burwood

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    Hard to blame fatigue the week after a bye and when the Dragons (the bloody Dragons!) score three tries in the opening 15 or so minutes. They just look completely lost out there.
     
  19. Pedge1971

    Pedge1971 First Grade

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    Front office management. Has been for years.
     
  20. Hello, I'm The Doctor

    Hello, I'm The Doctor First Grade

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    The shittiness of the Pack and the spine feed into each other creating a cycle of poor performances...

    Behind a dominant pack, any half can look like a world beater. Similarly, when being lead by great playmakers, any plodder can bend the line.

    We have noone able to raise themselves above the teams mediocrity and break the cycle, so we get stuck with this shitstain of a season. And ill be surprised if next year is any different.

    (Levi is great in broken play, but our forwards cannot offload to save themselves. Lamb is the other spark, but he is too young to carry a team as bad as us...)
     

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